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  • cheese007
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 85

    #1

    Braview PSU fraud.

    Was on hardware secret's Brazillian affiliate when I found this article. I won't spoil the details, but let's just say that these PSUs weren't exactly new...
  • RJARRRPCGP
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2004
    • 6304
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Braview PSU fraud.

    WTF is that connected to the MOSFET?! Is that a resistor?!
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    • cheese007
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 85

      #3
      Re: Braview PSU fraud.

      Yes, in fact, it is.

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      • cheese007
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 85

        #4
        Re: Braview PSU fraud.

        There's also some reviews of the higher-end sunpro/leadman stuff. Did anyone else know that Leadman could do modular?
        http://translate.googleusercontent.c...KXu6eH09A_8dTA
        http://translate.googleusercontent.c...BnyCZSTtDxtjFg

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        • 370forlife
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          • Aug 2008
          • 3112
          • United States

          #5
          Re: Braview PSU fraud.

          Wow. Terrible job doing rework there.

          On the other hand on clubedohardware i found the datasheet for the famous ATX2005 chip always found in deer/solytech psu's.
          Attached Files

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          • cheese007
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 85

            #6
            Re: Braview PSU fraud.

            After a little more digging on the site, I managed to find this: http://www.sunpro.cn/newEbiz1/EbizPo...=1280883815099
            Sadly no internal shots, but might clear up the OEMs of those clear Logisys and Apevia units.

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            • Krankshaft
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2007
              • 2328
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Braview PSU fraud.

              PCB reworked look at those solder joints! With what a blowtorch?
              Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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              • 370forlife
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                • Aug 2008
                • 3112
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                Originally posted by cheese007
                There's also some reviews of the higher-end sunpro/leadman stuff. Did anyone else know that Leadman could do modular?
                http://translate.googleusercontent.c...KXu6eH09A_8dTA
                http://translate.googleusercontent.c...BnyCZSTtDxtjFg
                Those ones aren't leadman. Those are sunpro's. I don't really know if sunpro and leadman are in bed together, or if they are two seperate companies. I think they are kind of both. Different designs, different components, but still owned (or one owns the other) by one company. Many leadman products share the KY-XXXATX part numbers that sunpro has. Remeber that powsun website kc8adu linked to a while back? It had a whole bunch of units on there with leadman model numbers and very leadman-ish design and build quality. Maybe Powmax (leadman's own brand) and Sunpro combined to make this company? Pow from powmax + sun from sunpro = Powsun.


                Powsun has a psu that looks identical to this one in every way, shape, and form. Now, it may be powsun and KK are one in the same, or someone copied someone else's design.
                Last edited by 370forlife; 08-03-2010, 07:23 PM.

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                • cheese007
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 85

                  #9
                  Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                  Your link goes nowhere. Surprised they're both different companies, considering the designs are usually so similar...

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                  • 370forlife
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                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3112
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                    http://translate.google.com/translat...80-BRHE%2F2028

                    There, that should work.

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                    • momaka
                      master hoarder
                      • May 2008
                      • 12170
                      • Bulgaria

                      #11
                      Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                      Originally posted by cheese007
                      Was on hardware secret's Brazillian affiliate when I found this article. I won't spoil the details, but let's just say that these PSUs weren't exactly new...
                      When I saw the overall look of those PSUs I though they weren't that bad. Then I saw the "rework" on the next page .

                      As for Powmax, Leadman, Sun Pro, etc. - don't know if they are related not, but don't care that much either. They just make crap PSUs, that's all everyone needs to know.

                      Originally posted by 370forlife
                      On the other hand on clubedohardware i found the datasheet for the famous ATX2005 chip always found in deer/solytech psu's.
                      Thanks alot man, I've been looking for that data sheet. Guess I didn't look hard enough. I do have a L&C PSUs that uses it. Wonder if it's similar to the chips marked with 2003 (ATX 2003??) - I have one with that as well.
                      Last edited by momaka; 08-03-2010, 08:56 PM.

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                      • cheese007
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 85

                        #12
                        Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                        http://translate.googleusercontent.c...XzoDZzklZa2LWg
                        World record capacitor failure?

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                        • 370forlife
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 3112
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                          Ha ha, sapcon. Yeah, you're a real sap if you use them (Bad-Pun Haw haw)

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                          • Per Hansson
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 5895
                            • Sweden

                            #14
                            Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                            That was some really good work by Gabriel, I hope he publishes it on hardwaresecrets.com aswell
                            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                            • goodpsusearch
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2850
                              • Greece

                              #15
                              Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                              Originally posted by momaka

                              As for Powmax, Leadman, Sun Pro, etc. - don't know if they are related not, but don't care that much either. They just make crap PSUs, that's all everyone needs to know.
                              This is not bad at all:
                              http://translate.googleusercontent.c...v1ZGHjA3uHOdXQ

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                              • RJARRRPCGP
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 6304
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                                Originally posted by cheese007
                                There's also some reviews of the higher-end sunpro/leadman stuff. Did anyone else know that Leadman could do modular?
                                http://translate.googleusercontent.c...KXu6eH09A_8dTA
                                http://translate.googleusercontent.c...BnyCZSTtDxtjFg
                                Looks like it's Leadership not Leadman.
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                                "Today's lesson in pissivity comes in the form of a ziplock baggie full of GPU extension brackets & hardware that for the last ~3 years have been on my bench, always in my way, getting moved around constantly....and yesterday I found myself in need of them....and the bastards are now nowhere to be found! Motherfracker!!" -Topcat

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                                • 370forlife
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                                  Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                                  That one looks like a andyson or some andyson knock off.

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                                  • Rulycat
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Apr 2010
                                    • 724
                                    • United Kingdom

                                    #18
                                    Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                                    Originally posted by cheese007
                                    Was on hardware secret's Brazillian affiliate when I found this article. I won't spoil the details, but let's just say that these PSUs weren't exactly new...
                                    A resistor?! On the MOSFET?! Would that thing even work? Would it not just catch fire?!

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                                    • Khron
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                                      • Sep 2006
                                      • 1350
                                      • Finland

                                      #19
                                      Re: Braview PSU fraud.

                                      Well, in all truth/fairness, that resistor *is* on the gate of the FET (the "control" leg; the other two are hooked up to the "power" side, source to + and drain to -), so it might actually do some good there (limiting the switching speed, slightly). I'm guessing it's just a cheap method to "cheap out" on circuit or pcb design
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