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  • PCBONEZ
    Grumpy Old Fart
    • Aug 2005
    • 10661
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

    Nah, I meant the new ones that won't fit in the 10mm spots.

    Also considered mounting them on the other side of the PC board and drilling clearance holes in the PSU's case. - Problem is PSU would have to have a bunch of clearance over it when mounted in the PC case.

    Fuhjyyu TM Series and TN Series have quite different ratings.
    - Yet I've seen them used interchangeably in some power supplies.

    Regardless their charts don't make much sense.
    Within a *Series*, ESR changes primarily with can size.
    - uF and volts has nothing much to do with it.
    - In a *Series* the materials and electrolyte should all be the same and so the only things changing that should affect ESR are the physical dimensions.
    -
    Look at about any major brand's chart. Picking two can sizes look at the ESR.
    For example look at the 8x20mm and then all the 10x20mm.
    - See what I mean? All of either size are the same (or nearly)
    uF and volts doesn't matter much. Can size does.
    -
    Fuhjyyu's numbers are all over the place (as they are in many el'cheapo brands) an don't follow the can sizes hardly at all. That gives me very low confidence that the numbers are correct to begin with.

    Some Fuhjyyu have an "R" after the TM or TN but I don't think that means anything significant in so far as specs.

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    Last edited by PCBONEZ; 01-07-2009, 11:51 PM.
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    • PCBONEZ
      Grumpy Old Fart
      • Aug 2005
      • 10661
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

      Originally posted by KeriJane
      That Fraud of a 4700uf / 10v TM appears to have similar Ripple Current to a 2200uf / 10v Nichicon PW. Which is actually close in ESR too.
      I've been using Samxon RS for the 4700/3300 Fuhjyyu replacements when I need 10mm.

      TopCat has them in 3300/16v and 3300/10v - both in 10mm diameter.
      https://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=22
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      • kc8adu
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        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #23
        Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

        Originally posted by PCBONEZ

        Some Fuhjyyu have an "R" after the TM or TN but I don't think that means anything significant in so far as specs.

        .
        reject?
        btw i figure that 4700@10 is bogus.
        i had a brand new in sealed package antec i got for $5 at a walmart closeout.
        the 2 4700@10 read 3100 uf.
        either bogus or they start rotting on the shelf.
        i use mbz 3300@6.3 10x25.
        they work fine.
        its like aa nimh batteries.
        if a reputable mfr isnt selling cells of a said capacity the claim is bogus.
        example.sanyo has a 2700 mah aa.
        lives up to its rating in tests.
        noname fleamarket brand found stamped 2900mah.
        tests show they wont even do 2300 and after a few test cycles inthe maha/powerex c9000 they leak!

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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

          I figured the 4700 was bogus at least on the 10mm version.
          But the only unused ones I've had to check,,, were already leaking.
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          • retnuoc
            New Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 6

            #25
            Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

            I able to get 10v 3300uf Teapo capacitor in Malaysia. I know teapo have a bad name in motherboard field. Is it okay to replace them in power supply application?

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            • tazwegion
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jun 2006
              • 444
              • Australia

              #26
              Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

              Teapo is like the Cadillac of the crap caps ensemble... they'll work acceptably but once you place them in a poorly ventilated application ie. industry standard PSU it's a matter of when NOT if they're gonna' fail
              Viva LA Retro!

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

                Originally posted by retnuoc
                I able to get 10v 3300uf Teapo capacitor in Malaysia. I know teapo have a bad name in motherboard field. Is it okay to replace them in power supply application?
                Teapo are generally considered okay in power supplies.
                They fail a lot less often than other non-japanese caps in PSUs.
                I would consider them okay to use in a PSU.

                I haven't seen 8mm or bigger Teapo used on a newer motherboards at all.
                Not since i845 chipset I think.
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                • tazwegion
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 444
                  • Australia

                  #28
                  Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

                  Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                  Teapo are generally considered okay in power supplies.
                  They fail a lot less often than other non-japanese caps in PSUs.
                  I would consider them okay to use in a PSU.
                  Not all PSUs are well ventilated, some barely have any airflow at all (usually fitted with low CFM fans)... I guess seeing as this will be in an Antec which have better airflow than many it should be okay, however my skin crawls at the thought of using (let alone recommending) Teapos in anything
                  Last edited by tazwegion; 02-05-2009, 07:29 PM.
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                  • PCBONEZ
                    Grumpy Old Fart
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10661
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Antec TruePower 430 recap need help

                    Originally posted by tazwegion
                    Not all PSUs are well ventilated, some barely have any airflow at all (usually fitted with low CFM fans)... I guess seeing as this will be in an Antec which have better airflow than many it should be okay, however my skin crawls at the thought of using (let alone recommending) Teapos in anything
                    I would never buy Teapo for replacements myself because better caps are too easy to come by here.
                    - But I'm not in Malaysia, in a hurry, or on a budget.

                    So far as heat. If a Fuhjyyu EVER survived in there a Teapo certainly will.

                    In PSUs Teapo are HARDLY: "the Cadillac of the crap caps ensemble".

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