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  • kaboom
    "Oh, Grouchy!"
    • Jan 2011
    • 2507
    • USA

    #21
    Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

    Originally posted by bianchi77
    Any suggestions ?
    Yes!

    Stop playing with things you're obviously unfamiliar with before you hurt yourself. Or, miswire something and backfeed line voltage (with, say, a fake supply) up a USB cable into a computer, via the drive you're trying to copy over, and destroy both!!

    Don't jump in the "deep end" til you learn how to swim. I warned you about using the original fake POS supply w/o bonding; you then replied about connecting the EGC to the bottom of the non-isolated bulk filter cap, straight off the AC line rectifier- I also specifically told you about that.

    You had no idea what was referred to when I mentioned secondary side bonding to the EGC; right away you knew where to put that green wire. If you actually connected the ground/EGC to the neg side of the big cap after the line rectifier, you'd have gotten a big surprise...

    And now, because you can solder, right away you're trying to work from/modify some schematic. Have you even traced out the ckt on your board???

    (not myself or my video, but still pertinent)
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    • bianchi77
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      • Jun 2016
      • 1121
      • Australia

      #22
      Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

      I'm curious fixing it...

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      • zx8401
        Phantom Fiddler
        • Aug 2013
        • 49
        • uk

        #23
        Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

        The 0.22 ohm resistor should not be controlling the output voltages, with no load on the output they should be about 12v and 5v, if not then you have a fault with the feedback opto coupler circuit.

        Take your suspect diodes out of circuit and check them for conduction in one direction only, use the diode check on your multimeter.
        If your meter does not have a diode check then put the diode in series with a small bulb and battery, it should light only in one direction.

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        • bianchi77
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          • Jun 2016
          • 1121
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          #24
          Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

          ok, I'll take the diodes of...

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          • bianchi77
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            • Jun 2016
            • 1121
            • Australia

            #25
            Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

            most of the diodes are 0.2V on diode test..
            one of them is 0.4V ...

            How can I test opto coupler ?

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            • zx8401
              Phantom Fiddler
              • Aug 2013
              • 49
              • uk

              #26
              Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

              They do test correct in only one direction yes?
              If you get the same reading in both directions they are faulty.

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              • bianchi77
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                • Jun 2016
                • 1121
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                #27
                Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                yes one direction....the other direction..not tested...

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                • zx8401
                  Phantom Fiddler
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 49
                  • uk

                  #28
                  Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                  A Basic test to see if the opto coupler is working is to connect 1.5v to the led side and see if the transistor side goes low resistance in value.
                  The meter should show open circuit with no voltage applied.
                  Here is a piccy to show the connection.
                  Attached Files

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                  • bianchi77
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                    • Jun 2016
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                    #29
                    Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                    I got the output 0.3V and 1.3V, suppose to be 12V and 5V, could it be opto coupler ?

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                    • bianchi77
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                      • Jun 2016
                      • 1121
                      • Australia

                      #30
                      Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                      I'm fiddling the schematic at post 18, I put R1 22 ohm/ 2W, since I don't have the exact replacement, does it matter with the voltage output ?
                      or?

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                      • bianchi77
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                        • Jun 2016
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                        #31
                        Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                        if I use a different coupler, does it matter ?
                        I don't have the exact replacement for it...

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                        • vinceroger69
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                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6714
                          • uk

                          #32
                          Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                          Originally posted by bianchi77
                          if I use a different coupler, does it matter ?
                          I don't have the exact replacement for it...
                          the original resistor was 0.22 ohm and you have replaced with a 22 ohm? i would get the correct 0.22 ohm and put that one in.

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                          • bianchi77
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                            • Jun 2016
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                            #33
                            Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                            if I use a different coupler, does it matter ?
                            I don't have the exact replacement for it...

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                            • bianchi77
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                              • Jun 2016
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                              #34
                              Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                              Originally posted by vinceroger69
                              the original resistor was 0.22 ohm and you have replaced with a 22 ohm? i would get the correct 0.22 ohm and put that one in.
                              if I put a lower resistance the bulb will on....short circuit...

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                              • bianchi77
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                                • Jun 2016
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                                #35
                                Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                                is it because D5 = FR107 and I replace it with 1N4007 ...
                                looks like it must be fast recovery one ?

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                                • bianchi77
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                                  • Jun 2016
                                  • 1121
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                                  #36
                                  Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                                  1N4007, trr = 30uS, FR107 = 500nS.....could it be a problem...?
                                  my 1N4007 can not take the speed ?

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                                  • vinceroger69
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                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #37
                                    Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                                    if the old diode is a ultra fast type yes the replacement may cause issues you really need to replace like for like with the parts even more so if your learning untill you gain more experience in finding suitable replacements.

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                                    • bianchi77
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                                      • Jun 2016
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                                      #38
                                      Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                                      ok...anything else faulty do you reckon ? output = 1.3V and 0.3V....abit weird...
                                      no short on high voltage side....bulb completely off..

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                                      • bianchi77
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                                        • Jun 2016
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                                        #39
                                        Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                                        is it possible I temporarily use FR302 replacing FR107 ?

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                                        • Khron
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                                          • Sep 2006
                                          • 1350
                                          • Finland

                                          #40
                                          Re: SATA /PATA external supply ?

                                          No - the 100v rating of the FR302 is way too low. I wouldn't use anything under a 400-600v rated ultrafast diode there.
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