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  • Luke Mawdesley
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    #21
    Originally posted by CapLeaker
    Read this thread and also check that MOSFET for short.
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...-7010-pc-tower
    I will do more testing later on this one later. I also took apart the other optiplex and found that it does have standby power, so I tried shorting the ground and PSON pins and it started up like normal with all power rails working. So I'm assuming the problem is with the mobo or power switch sending that signal.

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    • CapLeaker
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      #22
      Good! So you know what value the broken components are!

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      • stj
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        #23
        here we go again!
        what is it with dell and these shit psu's with under-rated caps?

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        • Luke Mawdesley
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          #24
          Originally posted by CapLeaker
          Good! So you know what value the broken components are!
          Well unfortunately no. While both of these are 790s, one is 2nd gen intel and the other is 3rd gen. I noticed that some parts like the heat sync were slightly different but the PSUs look the same and are probably even interchangeable. When I opened the other one though it was completely different with an entirely different board layout.

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          • Luke Mawdesley
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            #25
            I just hooked up the PSU to the mobo and manually turned on power. The front fan spins up but no other signs of life from the power button or LEDs. Is this a mobo issue?

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            • stj
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              #26
              some of the compact dell stuff is prone to bad caps on the motherboard.

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              • CapLeaker
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                #27
                I am not sure what it is with the Dell SFF PSU’s, but they either blow to bits an sh*t, or they develop some weird faults. I got myself one of these special victims at work.

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                • Luke Mawdesley
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                  #28
                  I've had more time to play around with them recently and was able to test the boards with an older optiplex psu that I had. Both boot up fine so it is an issue with the PSUs even though all power rails were working. I will probably just replace them rather than try and repair them.

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                  • stj
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                    #29
                    if the rails are good then look at the supervisor chip that generates the PG signal
                    it may even be just cracked soldering linking one of the vertical sub-pcb's

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                    • Luke Mawdesley
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by stj
                      if the rails are good then look at the supervisor chip that generates the PG signal
                      it may even be just cracked soldering linking one of the vertical sub-pcb's
                      Where would I find that on the board?

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                      • stj
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                        #31
                        trace it from the connector

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                        • Luke Mawdesley
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                          #32
                          I just checked and the PG rail outputs 3.88v. Is that the normal voltage?

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                          • stj
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                            #33
                            https://linustechtips.com/topic/1562...-pg-value-huh/

                            it should go low initially and then jump up to 5v

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                            • Luke Mawdesley
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                              #34
                              Originally posted by stj
                              https://linustechtips.com/topic/1562...-pg-value-huh/

                              it should go low initially and then jump up to 5v
                              It stays at 3.88v.

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                              • stj
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                                #35
                                then you found the cause of the pc not starting.

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                                • Luke Mawdesley
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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by stj
                                  then you found the cause of the pc not starting.
                                  Should I try disconnecting the PG wire and manually applying 5v to the rail?

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                                  • stj
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                                    #37
                                    no because it needs to pulse to ground first

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                                    • Luke Mawdesley
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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by stj
                                      no because it needs to pulse to ground first
                                      OK. I will probably buy new PSUs or scrap them at this point. Thanks for all the help.

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                                      • stj
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                                        • Albion

                                        #39
                                        follow the signal, it may just be a bad transistor

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