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  • kc8adu
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8832
    • U.S.A!

    #1

    possible delta fire hazard.

    got this in with a complaint of bad smell.
    usual blown caps.
    i tested it and smoke came from under the roach foam.
    i didnt leave it run as customer wants it fixed.
    any fires seen from a failure under the foam?
    i will strip it and fix whatever is burning.i suspect it is a leakage path in the foam itself as the unit runs fine on the tester other than the smoke.
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  • Shocker
    Banned
    • Dec 2011
    • 635

    #2
    Re: possible delta fire hazard.

    Looks like anti-static foam. Some fool must have added it, as I really doubt any manufacturer would be that stupid.

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    • LDSisHere
      Badcaps Veteran
      • May 2012
      • 727
      • U.S.A.

      #3
      Re: possible delta fire hazard.

      I have taken apart a few supplies that had foam on the bottom. I think I still have a few of them, but I do not recall off hand the brand(s) or model. I thought it was odd they had foam but I did not think about it smoking or burning. I will keep this in mind for the future. Thanks for sharing.

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      • c_hegge
        Badcaps Legend
        • Sep 2009
        • 5219
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: possible delta fire hazard.

        Originally posted by Shocker
        Looks like anti-static foam. Some fool must have added it, as I really doubt any manufacturer would be that stupid.
        I've seen lots of PSUs that came with that faom from the factory. Not delta, though.
        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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        • kc8adu
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8832
          • U.S.A!

          #5
          Re: possible delta fire hazard.

          not anti static.anti cockroach.lots of mention around here.

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          • Shocker
            Banned
            • Dec 2011
            • 635

            #6
            Re: possible delta fire hazard.

            Could you measure its resistance???

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            • ben7
              Capaholic
              • Jan 2011
              • 4059
              • USA

              #7
              Re: possible delta fire hazard.

              Model number of the psu? People always post about the dangerous psus but then they don't mention the model number ... LOL

              I have never seen a delta with that foam. My guess is the same as the brown glue, it becomes conductive over time.
              Muh-soggy-knee

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              • Pentium4
                CapXon Be Gone
                • Sep 2011
                • 3741
                • USA

                #8
                Re: possible delta fire hazard.

                I have a Delta DPS-350AB with foam in the same spot. It had bad caps as well. Is it possible for that foam to cause a short?

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                • kc8adu
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8832
                  • U.S.A!

                  #9
                  Re: possible delta fire hazard.

                  i will post it when i get back to the shop.

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                  • ben7
                    Capaholic
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 4059
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: possible delta fire hazard.

                    Originally posted by Pentium4
                    I have a Delta DPS-350AB with foam in the same spot. It had bad caps as well. Is it possible for that foam to cause a short?
                    The foam could carbonize, which makes it somewhat conductive. If there is an arc from that, then the plasma can carry the current very well and there will be a short.
                    Muh-soggy-knee

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                    • Pentium4
                      CapXon Be Gone
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3741
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: possible delta fire hazard.

                      Originally posted by ben7
                      The foam could carbonize, which makes it somewhat conductive. If there is an arc from that, then the plasma can carry the current very well and there will be a short.
                      Good to know. Mine gets 5VSB but the fan only flickers for a second when the power button is hit I wonder if the foam caused a short.

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