Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

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  • goodpsusearch
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2009
    • 2850
    • Greece

    #21
    Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

    The -12V had a DON 470uF 16V capacitor that had started to fail. I replaced it with 470uF 16V Teapo SX.

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    • Pentium4
      CapXon Be Gone
      • Sep 2011
      • 3741
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

      Nice! What's the efficiency like on yours? Mine at 110W was 72% and 180W was 73%

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      • goodpsusearch
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2009
        • 2850
        • Greece

        #23
        Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

        I don't have the equipment to measure that unfortunately.

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        • momaka
          master hoarder
          • May 2008
          • 12175
          • Bulgaria

          #24
          Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

          Originally posted by goodpsusearch
          The best Deer/L&C I have got so far. It has even MOV protection!
          Now compare to this (the LC-B300ATX, that is. Same PSU.... well, design-wise):
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...302#post224302

          Out of curiosity, what values does your PSU has for R1 and R2 (the 2 balancing resistors across the primary caps)?

          Also, what brand was the fan?

          Originally posted by goodpsusearch
          The MBR20100 had very short legs for that psu and it was impossible to make good contact with the PCB no matter how much solder I used...
          You could cut the legs shorter and then solder thick piece of wire to them and then solder that to the board.
          That's just an idea though. I have 1 rectifier like that that I want to use in a PSU but never got around to trying to see if that idea actually works.

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          • goodpsusearch
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2009
            • 2850
            • Greece

            #25
            Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

            Originally posted by momaka
            Now compare to this (the LC-B300ATX, that is. Same PSU.... well, design-wise):
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...302#post224302

            Out of curiosity, what values does your PSU has for R1 and R2 (the 2 balancing resistors across the primary caps)?

            Also, what brand was the fan?
            Challenge accepted:
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=524
            Notice how they replaced the torroid coil for 3.3V with an output filter choke!! This is incredible!

            The 2 balancing resistors are of the same value. I checked the color code on them, they are identical, but I can't recollect what values they were..

            The fan is Xinruilian. I think it still works because of the fan controller not stressing it too much.

            Originally posted by momaka

            You could cut the legs shorter and then solder thick piece of wire to them and then solder that to the board.
            That's just an idea though. I have 1 rectifier like that that I want to use in a PSU but never got around to trying to see if that idea actually works.
            Yeah, I could do that, but it's not worth the time. I already used that MBR20100 in another psu that had F12C20 with success. It had to do with the height of the screw holes on the heatsink.

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            • momaka
              master hoarder
              • May 2008
              • 12175
              • Bulgaria

              #26
              Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

              Originally posted by goodpsusearch
              Alright,


              Originally posted by goodpsusearch
              Notice how they replaced the torroid coil for 3.3V with an output filter choke!! This is incredible!
              Yeah, that ANS LC-235ATX I posted in the same link above has that too. The funny bit is that none of the caps inside it have gone bad yet (at least not visually) and that PSU was in good use for close to 5 years.


              Originally posted by goodpsusearch
              The 2 balancing resistors are of the same value. I checked the color code on them, they are identical, but I can't recollect what values they were..
              Interesting. I recall mine were both 330k, but TELVM's were of different values. I guess that's another unexplicable Deer/L&C "thing" just like the 3.3V torroid coil swapping.

              Originally posted by goodpsusearch
              The fan is Xinruilian. I think it still works because of the fan controller not stressing it too much.
              Fan controller?
              Oh my! Your Deer really is fancy . I don't ever recall seeing a Deer with one.
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              Last edited by momaka; 12-13-2012, 11:11 PM.

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              • Th3_uN1Qu3
                Believe in
                • Jul 2010
                • 6031
                • Romania

                #27
                Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

                Originally posted by momaka
                Fan controller?
                Oh my! Your Deer really is fancy . I don't ever recall seeing a Deer with one.
                I had one with huge heatsinks, EI-40 transformer, full input filters and full pi filters. Too bad it was full of Rulycons which is what killed it. It had so many bad caps of all shapes and sizes that it was not worth saving.
                Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                A working TV? How boring!

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                • goodpsusearch
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2850
                  • Greece

                  #28
                  Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

                  Originally posted by momaka

                  Out of curiosity, what values does your PSU has for R1 and R2 (the 2 balancing resistors across the primary caps)?
                  Originally posted by momaka

                  Interesting. I recall mine were both 330k, but TELVM's were of different values. I guess that's another unexplicable Deer/L&C "thing" just like the 3.3V torroid coil swapping.
                  That was no mistake after all!!! They do it intentionally!!

                  I got an Allied 2006 psu with the same asymmetry in bleeding resistors!

                  R3: 462kohm and R4: 330kohm

                  I have no idea why they did this, but it might have impact on the caps. The caps are Koshin 200V 470uF and their capacity is:
                  481uF (in parallel with 462kohm R3)
                  465uF (in parallel with 330kohm R4)

                  Any input would be welcome at that point..

                  TELVM's thread: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...586#post284586
                  Last edited by goodpsusearch; 05-05-2014, 05:55 PM.

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                  • everell
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1514
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

                    Here is information on that 2003 chip

                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1391561507
                    Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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                    • linuxguru
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1564

                      #30
                      Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

                      Bump: I have one of the gutless Deer/Allied/L&C which I had recapped earlier, and all was fine for years (8+ years), but the +5Vsb has finally died (i.e. no +5Vsb on power up). All secondary caps from previous recap seem fine. Checked and replaced the main fuse and the (shorted) 2N60B MOSFET switch for the auxiliary flyback. However, +5Vsb doesn't come on, i.e. auxiliary flyback doesn't start up.

                      What's the next thing to check, and is the 2N60B the original MOSFET on these units? Is there any suggested upgrade or uprated MOSFET that works reliably for the auxiliary?

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                      • momaka
                        master hoarder
                        • May 2008
                        • 12175
                        • Bulgaria

                        #31
                        Re: Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

                        Originally posted by linuxguru
                        Bump: I have one of the gutless Deer/Allied/L&C which I had recapped earlier, and all was fine for years (8+ years), but the +5Vsb has finally died (i.e. no +5Vsb on power up).
                        ...
                        What's the next thing to check
                        Since this is a 2-transistor self-osicllating circuit, my guess would be it went overvoltage or something equally catasrophic happened. You said the MOSFET was shorted, so check that the two primary windings on the 5VSB transformer haven't gone open circuit. Also check the Source power resistor for open circuit and the drive transistor (usually a C945 TO-92 device) for open and short circuit between pins. Change the 5VSB critical cap on the primary side (50V 22 uF, if I remember correctly). I highly suggest you check and/or change the optocoupler as well if you have a spare one.
                        Finally, check the snubber network on the primary winding of the 5VSB transformer.
                        ... in short, check everything on the 5VSB . 2-transistors circuits tend to destroy parts when something goes bad, so check your new parts too, now. Also, I suggest using the series light bulb trick to prevent further damage to the 5VSB when testing it.

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