Rasurbo RBP-450CL power supply's erratic behaviour

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  • mariushm
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2011
    • 3799

    #21
    Re: Rasurbo RBP-450CL power supply's erratic behaviour

    Originally posted by Rob Northen
    I've seen lots of people bitch about the 4 diode desigen. Could someone please tell what is wrong with the 4 diode design ??????
    As far as i know it does the same as a rectifier.
    In theory, when they're in the bridge rectifier package, the surface area of the whole package acts as a heatsink, so they don't heat as much.
    Maybe there's also something about not causing shorts between the leads but I doubt it.

    For example, here's standalone diode and a rectifier :

    1N5406 (600v 3a) : https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...bfe1b673eb.pdf
    GBU4J (600v 4a) :

    1n5406:
    PD Power Dissipation 6.25 W
    R. JA Thermal Resistance, Junction to Ambient 20 °C/W

    gbu4j:

    PD Power Dissipation 8 W
    RθJA Thermal Resistance, Junction to Ambient, * per leg 19 °C/W

    the bridge package heats less and can withstand more current

    Also, check the derating curves:



    If the fan dies and a user has a high load, the standalone diodes may melt or short closed, causing further damages. With the bridge rectifier, even a small plate of aluminum or copper is enough to act as heatsink.
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    • PeteS in CA
      Badcaps Legend
      • Aug 2005
      • 3581
      • USA, Unsure of Planet

      #22
      Re: Rasurbo RBP-450CL power supply's erratic behaviour

      The GBU4 is a lower dissipation part and can be mounted on a heatsink to improve its thermal performance. The 1N5406 has no way of heatsink mounting other than its leads, which gets kludgy.
      PeteS in CA

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      • b700029
        Banned
        • Sep 2010
        • 640

        #23
        Re: Rasurbo RBP-450CL power supply's erratic behaviour

        Originally posted by Newbie2
        I like the metallic purple "P4-450W" power supply they have in their picture with other power supply models.
        "it's not a wattage rating, it's just the model number for the different colors!"

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        • Rob Northen
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 137
          • Denmark

          #24
          Re: Rasurbo RBP-450CL power supply's erratic behaviour

          Originally posted by mariushm
          In theory, when they're in the bridge rectifier package, the surface area of the whole package acts as a heatsink, so they don't heat as much.
          Maybe there's also something about not causing shorts between the leads but I doubt it.

          For example, here's standalone diode and a rectifier :

          1N5406 (600v 3a) : https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...bfe1b673eb.pdf
          GBU4J (600v 4a) :

          1n5406:
          PD Power Dissipation 6.25 W
          R. JA Thermal Resistance, Junction to Ambient 20 °C/W

          gbu4j:

          PD Power Dissipation 8 W
          RθJA Thermal Resistance, Junction to Ambient, * per leg 19 °C/W

          the bridge package heats less and can withstand more current

          Also, check the derating curves:



          If the fan dies and a user has a high load, the standalone diodes may melt or short closed, causing further damages. With the bridge rectifier, even a small plate of aluminum or copper is enough to act as heatsink.
          Thanks for the info mate!

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