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    #41
    Re: Help troubleshooting Dell laptop

    I just did a kludgy switch repair on an Inspiron 3800 - the original power button was failing. I could not reliably turn it on and off.

    Upon disassembly, I found an SMT DPST 5-terminal microswitch on the motherboard. It's similar to the switches commonly found on front panels of printers, faxes and other appliances. However, I could not easily desolder and remove it - I removed the solder with a desoldering braid, but I could not easily lift any of the leads off the pads even with a fine knife. I guess there is a small drop of epoxy holding the switch in place - probably put there just before pick and place during manufacturing.

    I then decided to put another switch piggybacked above this one. It would have been too messy with an SMT switch, so I decided to use a through-hole version - and found one in a $0.50 Chinese laser pointer. This is a 4-lead SPST microswitch, but it had the same dimensions as the one in the Inspiron, with the 4 leads conveniently spaced to sit like spider legs above the original SMT microswitch. I checked the continuity on the original microswitch - it's wired like an SPST switch, so a direct parallel connection was feasible. It took nearly two hours to disassemble the board (I removed the PCMCIA socket assembly), carefully position and solder the new switch in place - but in the end everything worked fine. I also carefully cut the plastic on/off switch plunger to size to accommodate the additional height of the piggybacked switch - this has to be done in little increments of about 1 mm each time to get it just right.

    It feels great to have the Inspiron running like new - not too bad for a 6+ year old machine. MMC2 mobile PIII Coppermine 700/256, i440BX/MX chipset, ATI Rage Mobility graphics, etc. - the most reliable and dependable platform for Fedora Core (or for that matter any OS/distro).

    The engineering on the system is first-class - it's highly modular. It has been value-engineered, but not by bean counters. The charging/PSU circuit is on a separate daughterboard which can be replaced by the end-user - you just need to remove the keyboard to get access to it. Likewise, it just requires the removal of 3 screws to replace the display/hinge assembly in one piece.

    All in all, I'd much rather have the PIII Inspiron 3800, rather than the later P4 Inspiron 1100/5100/1150/5150 units. The 3800 is more durable, reliable and maintainable. It also runs cooler and quieter than the P4 units, and has the old PA-6 adapter with the 3-pin square jack. The keyboard has a nicer feel, and it has both a touchpad and a trackpoint. It supports dual-battery operation, and all drives are in removable drive caddies. The CDROM drive caddy can also accomodate a combo CD-RW/DVD drive. The only limitation is the CPU speed - the fastest CPU was the hard-to-find MMC2 PIII/850.

    Recommended - pick them off on EBay if the price is right.

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      #42
      Re: Help troubleshooting Dell laptop

      Amen to that.
      I returned the 1150 I had for repair, charged very little and kept an 1150 for myself.
      Two others are in the junk box, they unfortunately don't have the part you mentioned.
      Anyone needing 1150 parts just ask.
      Jim

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        #43
        Re: Help troubleshooting Dell laptop

        Hello ARNESON I was wondering where were you able to source a single chip? I need to get my hands on one ASAP. Thanks for any info. gcinelli@msn.com
        Last edited by gcinelli; 11-09-2006, 08:03 PM.

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          #44
          Re: Help troubleshooting Dell laptop

          The power control chip is proprietary to dell.
          This was an intersil 8247 with no data sheet.
          The family data shows the structure of the chip.
          The one I managed to put in, came off of another dead mainboard, which means a gentle removal and resolder
          I don't do gentle very well so it was a bitch, but it was an experiment with surface mounted 41 pin chip. I tried it to see if I could because these boards were dead anyway.
          Jim

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