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  • pdavid
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
    • 279
    • Hungary

    #1

    Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

    The good (naaah ) old (definately) CG 200X. After seeing c_hegge's rebuild I decided to try myself at modding a Codegen too. So here it goes. I'm not going to change the big transformer and inductors but all caps will go despite whatever condition they are. The supply worked so far and I hope it will too after I'm done with it. Also I'm putting the whole thing into a different psu case with a 12cm fan, so the heatsinks will be changed as well.

    Let's see what we are dealing with.
    Decent transient filtering, 4 amp bridge rectifier. Hec caps everywhere. The primaries have dropped a lot from their capacitance. When the LX series is "new" it actualy lives up to the specs... for a year at most. Primary switchers are E13009L and their aren't fake I guess. Good. I never had the luck to find much info about the S0165r IC...
    Secondary has HEC ZT 1000uf and 470uf. They measure good and none of them bulges. They usually don't. I can't measure esr now but as far as I've seen their esr stays in spec.
    Transformer is an ER-35, funny thing is the orange labeled 300w model has ei-33 in it usually. 30 amp schottkys for 5 and 3.3 volts and a fast 16A for the 12 volt. Not bad I say compared what you find it the orange box
    I've heared that Codegen is going through some changes and they may impove their quality. That would be great as far as they won't overprice their products.

    That's all for today.
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    Last edited by pdavid; 02-14-2012, 12:54 PM.
  • Th3_uN1Qu3
    Believe in
    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #2
    Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

    Originally posted by pdavid
    Primary switchers are E13009L and their aren't fake I guess. Good.
    They are genuine Fairchild parts, i've used them up to 650W out with no problem. Admittedly that was at 84% efficiency, and it wasn't a PC PSU (it was for an amplifier). But they're pretty good. It does look like they reached into the grab bag tho, they aren't both the same.

    Interesting is that i haven't actually found these particular versions (TO-247) for sale anywhere, looking for 13009 all you find is the TO-220 variety. I could use a dozen or so...

    Originally posted by pdavid
    I never had the luck to find much info about the S0165r IC...
    What does that IC do? It looks like this design uses mostly jellybean parts, a custom IC looks out of place. Maybe it's just the weird name and it's a common device.

    Originally posted by pdavid
    Secondary has HEC ZT 1000uf and 470uf. They measure good and none of them bulges. They usually don't. I can't measure esr now but as far as I've seen their esr stays in spec.
    Rarely seen bulged HEC caps. They usually just dry out. And that's even worse because you can't see it, only an ESR meter will tell you.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!

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    • goodpsusearch
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2009
      • 2850
      • Greece

      #3
      Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

      Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3



      Rarely seen bulged HEC caps. They usually just dry out. And that's even worse because you can't see it, only an ESR meter will tell you.
      Here you can see a primary bulged HEC:
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...5&d=1259178615

      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=110

      The power supply had APFC.

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
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        • Jul 2010
        • 6031
        • Romania

        #4
        Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

        Only encountered cheap PSUs without APFC until now. Bit surprised to see a Maxpower with that kind of beef in it... at least they tried.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
        A working TV? How boring!

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        • goodpsusearch
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2009
          • 2850
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

          Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
          Only encountered cheap PSUs without APFC until now. Bit surprised to see a Maxpower with that kind of beef in it... at least they tried.
          They tried again!

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...87&postcount=4

          That extra APFC board reminds me of ANTEC SP psus.

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          • pdavid
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jan 2011
            • 279
            • Hungary

            #6
            Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

            Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

            What does that IC do? It looks like this design uses mostly jellybean parts, a custom IC looks out of place. Maybe it's just the weird name and it's a common device.
            Damn, first I couldn't read the parts name correctly, it was dusty and all. It's a 5H0165R integrated thing, a Fairchild power switch for the 5Vsb. On some CG units there is a transistor on the same heatsink as the primaries. I never really cared about this part, since I rarely find a decent Codegen supply which works too anyway

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            • c_hegge
              Badcaps Legend
              • Sep 2009
              • 5219
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

              Not bad, although I would have used a better fan than a Tricod Science. I often find them noisy or locked up in Codegen PSUs.
              I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

              No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

              Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

              Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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              • pdavid
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jan 2011
                • 279
                • Hungary

                #8
                Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

                Assembled it togehter. That fan was greased and working last time, though it's not too powerful.
                I used Samxon GT, Yageo SY and SC caps on secondary. Replaced the F1620ct didode with a mbr20100ct schottky. I was so sure that it will work, 5vsb present, ps-on present, oh, no power good signal. Hooked it up on a motherboard same thing. Maybe it doesn't like the caps or the schottky?

                I don't have much luck with power supplies recently. I have 250 watt AcBel psu that just stopped giving power good signal as well, just by standig on the shelf and it has Rubycon and Chemi-con caps, come on!
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                • c_hegge
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5219
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

                  Cool. It looks much better now.
                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                  No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                  Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                  Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                  • Scenic
                    o.O
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2642
                    • Germany

                    #10
                    Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

                    Just for the records... Yageo = Teapo.
                    So Yageo SC = Teapo SC. Probably fine for PSU use in this case (with better ventilation than before with the 80mm fan)

                    No idea about the PGood problem though :|

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                    • pdavid
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 279
                      • Hungary

                      #11
                      Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

                      So I put back a fast rectifier to the 12 volt rail and it works. That made me suspicius so checked the schottky I used and it's shorted! I got like 20 new mbr20100ct schottky diodes and I picked a used one from the shelf. I think it was bad from the start. Oh well, I have diodes around with bronken leg and cracked casing and stuff and one managed to end up in the wrong place

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                      • pdavid
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jan 2011
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                        #12
                        Re: Codegen 300W recap and stuff...

                        It's working fine with a schottky. Voltages are between 5V: 5.030-5.110 12V: 12.115-11.935 3.3V: 3.345-3.370 with about 170 Watts of load. I can't measure ripple here and now. I don't really feel like testing this thing more anyway.

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