Suing Antec

[Shocker]

Do you think Antec should be sued over the StupidPowers and TroublePowers with the Fuhjyyu craps???

[everell]

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NO!

Old Chinese proverb say:

You get what you pay for......if you are lucky!

The American public enjoys playing with Chinese crap.

Instead, get rid of the old politicians in Congress (and the White House) who have been creating such a mess.

[joshnz]

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I doubt that it's possible to stop people from buying crap/unsafe goods,
here in nz there are many appliances that don't meet safety requirements but our govt does not limit what shops can import and sell (on the side of electronics).
example there have been three cases of crap home ware setting fires like heated clothing racks.

[Shocker]

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NO!

Old Chinese proverb say:

You get what you pay for......if you are lucky!

The American public enjoys playing with Chinese crap.

Instead, get rid of the old politicians in Congress (and the White House) who have been creating such a mess.

Thing is, there were and are many less expensive PSUs with better capacitors (than Fuhjyyu). Antec has NO excuse AT ALL. Antec

[370forlife]

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The thing is, antec hasn't used power supplies with Fuhjyyu caps in years. They don't even use CWT as a OEM anymore. I think the worst caps their psu's come with now are Ltec, which really aren't that bad especially when delta knows what they are doing designing a power supply.

Also keep in mind a lot of other manufacturers used Fuhjyyu.

[Shocker]

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The thing is, antec hasn't used power supplies with Fuhjyyu caps in years. They don't even use CWT as a OEM anymore. I think the worst caps their psu's come with now are Ltec, which really aren't that bad especially when delta knows what they are doing designing a power supply.

I know, but they did a lot of damage by using CWT with their Fuhjyyus in the first place. Just because they switched eventually doesn't mean they shouldn't be sued IMO...

Also keep in mind a lot of other manufacturers used Fuhjyyu.

I know that too, but the Antecs run hot, because their fans were run extra slow to try and be as quiet as possible. Even so, this doesn't excuse the use of Fuhjyyu in a supposedly high-end PSU. None of my other PSUs with Fuhjyyus are high-end - Macron, FSP, ISO, all are mid-range at best. In case you're wondering, I don't actually have an Antec myself, but the appalling failure rate of Antecs on the forum nonetheless inspired me to put up this poll.

[shovenose]

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Not now they shouldn't be.
Back when those were failing but still were manufactured, yes.

[Shocker]

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Not now they shouldn't be.
Back when those were failing but still were manufactured, yes.

Hmm, I should have asked should Antec HAVE been sued.

[mockingbird]

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No.

Antec makes quality, and they make junk. Corsair also makes junk. If you want high quality Antec, buy the "HCG" series. They have only Japanese caps. One 400W model I saw even had Rubycons on the secondary.

[Shocker]

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No.

Antec makes quality, and they make junk. Corsair also makes junk. If you want high quality Antec, buy the "HCG" series. They have only Japanese caps. One 400W model I saw even had Rubycons on the secondary.

AFAIK, the high-end Corsairs always used Jap caps. Not like Antec.

[rogfanther]

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No. Quality has a price. If people search for the cheapest, they will receive it. "Good, fast, cheap. Pick any two".

[b700029]

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No, if you're going to pick a bad PSU manufacturer there are worse... a lot worse.

[Shocker]

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Okay, my poll results are rather dissappointing.

b700029:
If people buy cheap PSUs, that's their choice. But Antec suckered people into paying premium prices for PSUs with crap caps. And they failed a lot - more so than gutless wonders. I SERIOUSLY think they should have been sued. We'll never forget how badly the Antecs of the past failed.

[Shocker]

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No. Quality has a price. If people search for the cheapest, they will receive it.

The Antecs I'm talking about were perceived as high-end back in the day. So the people who were actually willing to pay for quality got suckered. That's why we all got at Antec. To a point, they cleaned up their act, but it's hard to get over such bad memories, and their use of Fuhjyyu caps in them was absolutely risible. That's why people said to them.

EDIT: Should have posted this one first. me. But I don't think there's anything I can do about it.

[Krankshaft]

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People buy cheap crap all the time this is nothing new. These units were built to a price to maximize profits. What products are perceived to be and what they are are two different things.

If manufacturers didn't build cheap crap I wouldn't have any electronics .

I still buy Antec my 650W Earthwatts installed in 09 has Chemicon and Ltec caps in it as far as I'm concerned they learned their lesson.

I've never seen LTECs fail in PSUs and Delta uses them all the time. It cost about the same as my Smartpower in 05 60 bucks and it's still running and the caps are still good.

Every manufacturer has bad runs they RMA'd the supplies with Earthwatts units and that was the resolution. I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations has been passed by now. Plus when the manufacturer offers replacement you don't have a legal leg to stand on.

I had 3 WD and Seagate drives fail last year I'm sure many other people did as well should I sue Seagate and WD? No because the resolution was replacement and I'm sure they clearly stipulated replacement as the sole remedy in the warranty details. Indemnifying them from any further damages such as data loss.

Personally I'm sick of the sue them for everything attitude. Frivolous lawsuits run especially rampant in America.

If I buy something and it breaks it's my fault because I bought a piece of crap .

[Topcat]

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Seriously? Even crap caps would get them through their warranty period. If it dies after that, its all yours. On the other side of the coin, class actions have worked against Dell and Abit, which got many Dell models extended warranties to replace bad caps....

I havent seen a fukkyoo cap in an antec in about 6 years......so no, a lawsuit would be a waste of time.

[Shocker]

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People buy cheap crap all the time this is nothing new.

I know they do...

These units were built to a price to maximize profits.

That's not an excuse to use crapacitors in a supposedly high-end PSU though.

I had 3 WD and Seagate drives fail last year I'm sure many other people did as well should I sue Seagate and WD? No because the resolution was replacement and I'm sure they clearly stipulated replacement as the sole remedy in the warranty details.

I don't think that's even a fair comparison. Do you mean three of each, or combined??? Either way, out of what number are you talking??? And which models???

I would have cut Antec some slack if they dealt with the problem in a professional and honest manner, AND agreed to replace damaged hardware, but that's not the case. Remember that AntecRep that trolled the forum???

[Krankshaft]

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I would have cut Antec some slack if they dealt with the problem in a professional and honest manner, AND agreed to replace damaged hardware, but that's not the case. Remember that AntecRep that trolled the forum???

Wouldn't be the first time a corporation tried slithering their way out of a situation instead of dumping money for RMAs. Reminds me of the Sony PS2 Disk Read Error laser fiasco. Made a lot of money replacing those lasers.

[Newbie2]

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It would be pointless to try to sue Antec now over the Fuhjyyu caps used in the old CWT-made power supplies made years back; Antec moved on long ago and sells better power supplies from different OEM manufacturers as well. I wouldn't think that such a proposed case would even make it to court.

I now swear by Antec power supplies; I use their Neo ECO 400C in my main desktop PC and I have also used many of their power supplies from their EarthWatts, EarthWatts Green, and Basiq series in computer builds for my family. Every post-Fuhjyyu Antec-branded power supply I have used are running without any problems.

In my opinion, the Antec brand of power supplies is good, having power supplies that deliver solid reliable performance for many applications at reasonable prices.

[PCBONEZ]

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At the time they were using Fuhjyyu - absolutely.
It's a little too late now.
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The idea of avoiding liability by establishing a corporation just pisses me off.
They begin to think "even if we knowingly fuck people over they can't touch us personally".
Stock holders should share the $$$ of liability and CEO's should go to jail.
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I guarantee the quality of just about everything would improve.
And I think we'd see fewer mine explosions, ship wrecks, and a lot less oil in the ocean....
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