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  • 1beertap
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2009
    • 219
    • USA

    #1

    Diode Replacement

    I need help in a replacement diode for the one shown in the attached photo. It has the numbers 676 printed on it as well as arrows. The first number six could actually be a nine as it's laying on its side. Any help would be appreciated...thanks.
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  • 1beertap
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2009
    • 219
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Diode Replacement

    I have uploaded photos of the power supply. It came out of a slot machine.
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    • Jack Crow
      It's a CLASOB!
      • May 2008
      • 823
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Diode Replacement

      Mr Beer Tap
      Greetings on the day.
      Item one, great board name.

      Item two
      Ran into these things in two way radio.

      It's a kind of varistor / zener combination.
      If the voltage goes too high across the terminals, it starts to conduct.

      Some things for you to try.

      Will the PSU power up on it's own now?
      What is the voltage across the point where the device was removed.

      These parts die for only one reason.

      They can't over dissipate for long.

      In Yeasu radios the part was rated for 16 volts.
      Seems transiant voltages in cars will spike the line over 16, the thing conducts, and after a while, pow, short city. The client is stuck with a radio that blows fuses. And I get to track down a mystery.

      If you can. Catch me off list, thinking of moving to Reno and fixing PSU's in games is a line of side work Im thinking about.

      Thanks in advance
      Jack Crow
      "You are, what you do, when it counts"
      The Masso

      "Gravity, the quickest way down"
      Mayor John Almafi

      "You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?
      You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
      But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?
      If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?"

      MC Hawking

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      • Toasty
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2007
        • 4171

        #4
        Re: Diode Replacement

        What makes you believe it is bad?
        veritas odium parit

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        • 1beertap
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Mar 2009
          • 219
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Diode Replacement

          Originally posted by Jack Crow
          Will the PSU power up on it's own now?
          What is the voltage across the point where the device was removed.
          Jack Crow
          Jack,
          With the part in question removed, it will power up with no problems. Also, the reading I get across the point of where the device was is 38.7Vdc.

          This unit died because of a person plugging in 110vac into the back of the supply not realizing it works on 24vac. Also, when they plugged it in, they pushed the connector in so hard that it bent the case thus shorting it out against an internal heat sink.

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          • 1beertap
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Mar 2009
            • 219
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Diode Replacement

            Originally posted by Toasty
            What makes you believe it is bad?
            It's shorted and will blow the fuse when it's in circuit. The unit works fine without it.

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            • Jack Crow
              It's a CLASOB!
              • May 2008
              • 823
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Diode Replacement

              Mr Tap,
              Yupp, that is a standard symptom.
              Pull the offending part and the voltage comes up.

              Everything seems to work fine. (Assuming that 37.5 volts is what you expect.)

              What I do when a weird part comes across my desk.
              I look at it under a microscope, get all the numbers off it, then do a google search with the numbers I find. Most times that is enough to find the part I want.

              If that won't do the trick, find a Zener about five volts over your target voltage and call it a day.

              Much luck.
              Jack Crow
              "You are, what you do, when it counts"
              The Masso

              "Gravity, the quickest way down"
              Mayor John Almafi

              "You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?
              You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
              But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?
              If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?"

              MC Hawking

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              • Jack Crow
                It's a CLASOB!
                • May 2008
                • 823
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Diode Replacement

                BT,
                Found the parts I was telling you about.

                This one is used on a 12 volt ham radio.

                From the spec sheet on Mouser.com
                http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...AkAmo4UA%3d%3d


                Manufacturer: Vishay
                Product Category: TVS Diodes - Transient Voltage Suppressors
                RoHS: No

                RoHS Version Available


                Polarity: Unidirectional
                Clamping Voltage: 16.7 V
                Operating Voltage: 10.2 V
                Package / Case: DO-204AC
                Breakdown Voltage: 11.4 V
                Peak Surge Current: 75 A
                Peak Pulse Power Dissipation: 600 W
                Maximum Operating Temperature: + 185 C
                Minimum Operating Temperature: - 65 C
                Packaging: Reel
                Dimensions: 3.6 (Max) mm W x 7.6 (Max) mm L
                Factory Pack Quantity: 4000


                Went back to the web site and looked up a similar part for above 37.5, and found this.

                http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...kCPHn4jNdW8%3d

                See an Error?
                [Vishay Semiconductors 1.5KE47C-E3/54]
                Mouser Part #: 625-1.5KE47C-E3
                Manufacturer Part #:
                1.5KE47C-E3/54
                Manufacturer:
                Vishay Semiconductors
                Description: TVS Diodes - Transient Voltage Suppressors 1500W 47V Bidirect

                PDF Data Sheet
                Order quantities greater than 1,390 may be subject to a minimum order quantity. If a minimum applies, Mouser will contact you.
                Images are for reference only
                See Product Specifications
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                Specifications
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                My Notes

                Manufacturer: Vishay
                Product Category: TVS Diodes - Transient Voltage Suppressors
                RoHS: RoHS Compliant By Exemption Details
                Polarity: Unidirectional
                Clamping Voltage: 67.8 V
                Operating Voltage: 38.1 V
                Package / Case: Case 1.5KE
                Breakdown Voltage: 42.3 V
                Peak Surge Current: 22.1 A
                Peak Pulse Power Dissipation: 1500 W
                Maximum Operating Temperature: + 175 C
                Minimum Operating Temperature: - 55 C
                Packaging: Reel
                Dimensions: 5.3 (Max) mm W x 9.5 (Max) mm L

                Hope this helps.
                Jack Crow
                Herndon VA
                "You are, what you do, when it counts"
                The Masso

                "Gravity, the quickest way down"
                Mayor John Almafi

                "You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?
                You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
                But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?
                If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?"

                MC Hawking

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                • 1beertap
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 219
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Diode Replacement

                  Jack,

                  Sorry it took so long to respond. I've been away from the computer for a few days. Anyway, thank you for looking the part up for me. I ordered the part just shortly before I posted here. Thanks again.

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                  • Jack Crow
                    It's a CLASOB!
                    • May 2008
                    • 823
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Diode Replacement

                    BT,
                    This is how we operate here. May not be the fastest but eventually we get around to it.

                    Much luck on the project.

                    Jack Crow in the less than free world.
                    "You are, what you do, when it counts"
                    The Masso

                    "Gravity, the quickest way down"
                    Mayor John Almafi

                    "You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?
                    You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
                    But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?
                    If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?"

                    MC Hawking

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                    • 1beertap
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 219
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Diode Replacement

                      Jack,
                      Will unidirectional polarity matter using the TVS diode? I have a working diode with the same part number that I located on another area of the board. The TVS diode and the 676 diode I found do not test the same.

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                      • Jack Crow
                        It's a CLASOB!
                        • May 2008
                        • 823
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Diode Replacement

                        BT,
                        A moment of truth here.
                        Have not had much time to play with them.

                        Suppose the OEM might have data sheets and test circuits that will explain how they work and are to be used.

                        I found one bad in a two way ham radio.
                        Seems start up surge in the vehicle wiped the part out.

                        It's been happening across the country.

                        You know how it works, fine one bad one, and then hear about four more.

                        Keep us in the loop. This is good education.

                        Jack Crow
                        "You are, what you do, when it counts"
                        The Masso

                        "Gravity, the quickest way down"
                        Mayor John Almafi

                        "You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?
                        You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
                        But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?
                        If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?"

                        MC Hawking

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