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  • grss1982
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2007
    • 225
    • Philippines

    #1

    New PSU Killing RAM

    My rig below was running fine with 2 stick of RAM. A power surge occurred and one of my modules died.

    I assumed the PSU must have died as well and thus replaced it with a silverstone 600w psu while running only with 1 ram module. Two days ago the other module just dies.

    So I was wondering, what killed it the first power supply or the new one?

    The new is 3 month old and I'm really starting to have doubts with it.

    Also could the first psu have done something to both ram modules and it just took time for the last one to die out on me?

    Thanks in advance.
    CPU: Sempron 2500+ / P4 2.8E / P4 2.6C / A64 x2 4000+ / E6420 / E8500 / i5-3470 / i7-3770
    GPU: TNT2 M64 / Radeon 9000 / MX 440-SE / 7300GT / Radeon 4670 / GTS 250 / Radeon 7950 / 660 Ti / GTS 450

    Main Driver: Intel i7 3770 | Asus P8H61-MX | MSI GTS 450 | 8GB of NO NAME DDR3 RAM (2x4GB) | 1TB SATA HDD (W.D. Blue) | ASUS DVD-RW | 22" HP Compaq LE2202x (1920x1080) | Seasonic S12II-620 PSU | Antec 300 | Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1
  • PCBONEZ
    Grumpy Old Fart
    • Aug 2005
    • 10661
    • USA

    #2
    Re: New PSU Killing RAM

    The RAM modules themselves may not be dead.
    Sounds like the RAM voltage regulator on the mobo ate it.
    Try the RAM in a different board.
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    • grss1982
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Mar 2007
      • 225
      • Philippines

      #3
      Re: New PSU Killing RAM

      Originally posted by PCBONEZ
      The RAM modules themselves may not be dead.
      Sounds like the RAM voltage regulator on the mobo ate it.
      Try the RAM in a different board.
      .
      Thanks. Will do.

      But your\'re not suspecting the PSU?
      CPU: Sempron 2500+ / P4 2.8E / P4 2.6C / A64 x2 4000+ / E6420 / E8500 / i5-3470 / i7-3770
      GPU: TNT2 M64 / Radeon 9000 / MX 440-SE / 7300GT / Radeon 4670 / GTS 250 / Radeon 7950 / 660 Ti / GTS 450

      Main Driver: Intel i7 3770 | Asus P8H61-MX | MSI GTS 450 | 8GB of NO NAME DDR3 RAM (2x4GB) | 1TB SATA HDD (W.D. Blue) | ASUS DVD-RW | 22" HP Compaq LE2202x (1920x1080) | Seasonic S12II-620 PSU | Antec 300 | Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1

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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #4
        Re: New PSU Killing RAM

        The Ram voltage regulator is between the PSU and the RAM.
        I suspect the PSU ate it from the power surge and took the Ram VR with it...
        ... but the RAM VR didn't fail completely at first...
        ... so you saw what appeared to be a sequential failure of RAM as the VR was fizzling out.
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        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

        -
        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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        -
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        • grss1982
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Mar 2007
          • 225
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: New PSU Killing RAM

          Originally posted by PCBONEZ
          The Ram voltage regulator is between the PSU and the RAM.
          I suspect the PSU ate it from the power surge and took the Ram VR with it...
          ... but the RAM VR didn't fail completely at first...
          ... so you saw what appeared to be a sequential failure of RAM as the VR was fizzling out.
          .
          Good Point. Thanks.

          So that means my shiny PSU (600w)is not causing it and it was in fact the first one (400w) that was the suspect in all of this.

          Just for clarification 2nd module dies after new psu. while first module dies when I was still using 400w psu.
          CPU: Sempron 2500+ / P4 2.8E / P4 2.6C / A64 x2 4000+ / E6420 / E8500 / i5-3470 / i7-3770
          GPU: TNT2 M64 / Radeon 9000 / MX 440-SE / 7300GT / Radeon 4670 / GTS 250 / Radeon 7950 / 660 Ti / GTS 450

          Main Driver: Intel i7 3770 | Asus P8H61-MX | MSI GTS 450 | 8GB of NO NAME DDR3 RAM (2x4GB) | 1TB SATA HDD (W.D. Blue) | ASUS DVD-RW | 22" HP Compaq LE2202x (1920x1080) | Seasonic S12II-620 PSU | Antec 300 | Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1

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          • momaka
            master hoarder
            • May 2008
            • 12160
            • Bulgaria

            #6
            Re: New PSU Killing RAM

            Also check your BIOS settings - more particularly, see if there are any settings to change the RAM votage. Make sure the RAM is running at 1.8V and not something higher.

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            • 999999999
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Sep 2006
              • 774
              • USA

              #7
              Re: New PSU Killing RAM

              *Anything* is possible, but what seems most likely to me is that the initial surge immediately killed one of the memory modules, but also simultaneously damaged the other memory module.

              Not all surge damage causes immediate failure, it could just degrade the memory so it fails sooner.

              However, you wrote that you assumed the first PSU was dead. It might be, but I would test it outside of the PC. It is possible it survived, while the memory fried, and it wouldn't turn on the system because of damaged components like memory.

              Now comes the tricky part. Swapping suspect components into known good systems and vice-versa is sometimes the only reasonable way to test some things, BUT it can cause more damage. If the surge or subsequent failure of a memory module left the motherboard damaged, plugging new memory in may risk the new memory. If the 2nd memory module is damaged, plugging it into a different system/motherboard could damaged that motherboard.

              Since you only had 2 x 1GB memory which is the less costly component per module, I think I would start out by buying 2 x 1GB memory and putting it in a 2nd known good system to rule out DOA product, then put it in the suspect system that encountered the surge.

              If that works ok I would not test the old memory at all, throwing it away instead. If that does not work ok, (after any associated bios memory setting if needed) suspect the motherboard is damaged and test the old, 2nd module.

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