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  • mike9h29
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 60

    #1

    Power Supply

    Hello.

    I need a Power Supply to power a CB, VHF, UHF and HF Radios.

    I think I will need around 50/65A (12V) as I may add a linear amplifier in the future.

    I can buy a PC PSU with separate rails for 12V or I can buy a big transformer and filter its output.

    What do you think will be the best?

    I dont need variable voltage.

    Thanks

    Mario
  • Toasty
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2007
    • 4171

    #2
    Re: Power Supply

    A heavy duty car battery with a very good 20-30A charger that will do float charging would probably be better. You're not going to be on continuous TX, so factor that in.

    If not, then smaller, individual 10-20A power supplies to run 2 units would be best. If a "big" one were to fail, you'd lose the use of the whole setup.

    What amount of amperage do the units draw individually on TX?

    Toast
    veritas odium parit

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    • mike9h29
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 60

      #3
      Re: Power Supply

      Originally posted by Toasty
      A heavy duty car battery with a very good 20-30A charger that will do float charging would probably be better. You're not going to be on continuous TX, so factor that in.

      If not, then smaller, individual 10-20A power supplies to run 2 units would be best. If a "big" one were to fail, you'd lose the use of the whole setup.

      What amount of amperage do the units draw individually on TX?

      Toast
      I dont know exactly the current of the units, but I found on the internet that an HF Transceiver requires a minimum of 25A for TX.

      Will a High End PC PSU do the job?

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
        Believe in
        • Jul 2010
        • 6031
        • Romania

        #4
        Re: Power Supply

        One of the modern units with DC-DC VRMs for the minor rails, where you can get all power on 12v alone, will do. You'll have to do a slight modification of the feedback circuit to bump the voltage up a tad. Or if your equipment is happy with just 12v let it be, but radio equipment is generally spec'd for 13.8v.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
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        • ipman
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 159

          #5
          Re: Power Supply

          12V will prevent the transmitter to obtain full power. The power supply can be modified, if you know how to, but any switching supply will supply noise.
          The best solution is one biiiig transformer, prefer a toroidal one.

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          • Toasty
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2007
            • 4171

            #6
            Re: Power Supply

            Power supplies, such as Astron, are made for these types of applications. They produce the necessary 13.8v. A 25A continuous unit with 30A intermittent would cost ~$175 US.

            That said, a car battery with a 300A CCA rating can be had for ~$50 and a decent 20A charger with float capability for ~$75 US.

            You should change the name of this thread. There are a bunch of HAM operators in here who could give you some pointers for your setup. Click the red triangle under anyone's name and ask the moderators to change it. Something like "Help - Power Supply suggestions for VHF UHF setup"

            Toast
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            • Jack Crow
              It's a CLASOB!
              • May 2008
              • 823
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Power Supply

              Guys
              On the bench I use an "Ebay" special.
              It's a small switcher good for about 27 amps at 14 volts.

              I do a lot of 110 watt mobile radios and have yet to slug it.
              It seems to be RFI immune.

              It's been on and running for over 2 years with zero issues.
              Think I spent less than $60 on it.

              Hard to kill.

              Hope it helps.
              Jack Crow
              Herndon VA
              "You are, what you do, when it counts"
              The Masso

              "Gravity, the quickest way down"
              Mayor John Almafi

              "You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?
              You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
              But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?
              If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?"

              MC Hawking

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              • mike9h29
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 60

                #8
                Re: Power Supply

                Originally posted by ipman
                12V will prevent the transmitter to obtain full power. The power supply can be modified, if you know how to, but any switching supply will supply noise.
                The best solution is one biiiig transformer, prefer a toroidal one.
                Will connecting some big capacitors to the output of the psu kill the noise please?

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                • mike9h29
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 60

                  #9
                  Re: Power Supply

                  Ok, I liked the idea of using a car battery, but I am afraid of it as it may explode and this will be used inside a house.

                  I tried to find a transformer but I cant find any.

                  I decided to go for SMPS. But I need some help please.

                  How can I adjust the voltage of a 12v PSU to 13.8v please?

                  Will connecting Big Capacitors to the output help with noise? (I just asked this question above)

                  Thanks

                  Mario

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                  • Toasty
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 4171

                    #10
                    Re: Power Supply

                    https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...644350b7da.pdf

                    https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...b3145bb959.pdf

                    http://www.users.on.net/~endsodds/safe.htm

                    Try Googling:

                    radio bench power supply from atx

                    radio bench power supply computer atx

                    .
                    Last edited by Toasty; 10-15-2011, 02:45 AM.
                    veritas odium parit

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                    • Toasty
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 4171

                      #11
                      Re: Power Supply

                      Originally posted by Jack Crow
                      Guys
                      On the bench I use an "Ebay" special.
                      It's a small switcher good for about 27 amps at 14 volts.

                      I do a lot of 110 watt mobile radios and have yet to slug it.
                      It seems to be RFI immune.

                      It's been on and running for over 2 years with zero issues.
                      Think I spent less than $60 on it.

                      Hard to kill.

                      Hope it helps.
                      Jack Crow
                      Herndon VA
                      Any branding on that Jack? Something to narrow it down a bit on eBay?

                      Toast
                      veritas odium parit

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