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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #1

    Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

    Upon doing some real-world tests on an inductor i made out of an EI-33 core for a modified ATX PSU, i saw that it works just fine. Now all i have to do is buy some more wire and finish it up.

    Now, i've been thinking about a fairly high-tech inductor measurement solution, which determines the real inductance with applied DC bias. However, this inductor i made works just fine, with the only measurement made was the inductance at no load, with my inductance measuring DMM. Now, it works because i provided a large enough gap. I did so without doing too much math, coz i simply did not have the math at that time. Well... after days of searching, i found the formula i was looking for. And it confirms my results. Since ferrite has a fairly sudden saturation curve, if the inductor does not saturate at maximum load, you need not worry about its inductance at max load vs its inductance at no load, because it will remain the same. Of course, apart from the minimum gap length you also have to satisfy the volts per turn criteria, but this will be in almost all cases not a problem, because the gap drastically reduces inductance, so you'll need more turns than the minimum volts/turn anyway.

    Of course, i'm sharing the math with you. In the form of a convenient spreadsheet. Have fun. Oh, and there's more goodies coming. More topologies in my SMPS Cheat Sheet, more variables to play with, compensation components calculator, an ATX PSU mod guide (wait, did i say that? oops, i spoiled the surprise). Basically more of everything. Stay tuned.

    Btw. It doesn't matter whether you have a micrometer or not. A standard sheet of 80g/m^2 copy paper has a thickness of 0.1mm. Fold it and get any gap length needed. So get to work already.
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    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
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  • goodpsusearch
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    • Oct 2009
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    • Greece

    #2
    Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

    I can't open the file with Office XP (2002)

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    • Rulycat
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      • Apr 2010
      • 724
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      #3
      Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

      Works great for me in LibreOffice (sucessor to OpenOffice) download that and try.

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
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        • Jul 2010
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        #4
        Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

        Um, wait they changed OpenOffice to... um, no, it's still separate. I don't get it. Anyway the file was saved using OpenOffice, i'll take a look at the compatibility settings.

        Try it now.
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        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
        A working TV? How boring!

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        • goodpsusearch
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          • Oct 2009
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          #5
          Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

          It works now, thanks!

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          • Th3_uN1Qu3
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            • Jul 2010
            • 6031
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            #6
            Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

            I forgot to add that you'll still have to measure inductance at the specific number of turns you did using an inductance measuring meter. There is of course a formula from calculating inductance from core AL value and gap length, but it's about as accurate as the AL and gap length values... and the AL value alone, given by core manufacturers, is +/-20% tolerance, which is A LOT.
            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
            Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
            A working TV? How boring!

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            • Rulycat
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              • Apr 2010
              • 724
              • United Kingdom

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              Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

              Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
              Um, wait they changed OpenOffice to... um, no, it's still separate. I don't get it. Anyway the file was saved using OpenOffice, i'll take a look at the compatibility settings.

              Try it now.
              A bit OT now but LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice and they've stopped developing OpenOffice.

              Thanks for the speadsheet. I'm hoping to try building my own ATX PSU when I get time. That should be a fun (and explosive! ) venture.

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              • severach
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                • Aug 2007
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                Re: Gapped Ferrite Inductor Calculator

                Since it seems that OpenOffice is still being developed, people reading this might be interested in some references.

                15 Apr 2011 15:16 Oracle Announces Its Intention to Move OpenOffice.org to a Community-based Project
                Ars Technica: Oracle gives up on OpenOffice after community forks the project
                sig files are for morons

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