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  • Ant3G
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 24

    #1

    Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

    I got PC on repair with this bad PSU (Maxpower PL-400, 400w) which was overheating (vent blocked by alot dust).
    Unfortunately, PSU fryed MBO and CPU because of huge oscilation in voltages.
    5v oscilating for +-2v, and 12v oscilating between 6-10v.

    When I opened it, 3 caps were bad (2200mF). When i swapped them, nothing changed.

    Is there anything I can check and swap component for low cost or should just throw it away?

    Thanks in advance
  • kc8adu
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8832
    • U.S.A!

    #2
    Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

    without a pic its hard to say.if its the one i am thinking of the standard test is to drop it in the trashcan.if it makes a clunk when it hits the bottom its bad.

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    • Scenic
      o.O
      • Sep 2007
      • 2642
      • Germany

      #3
      Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

      couple threads on those Rexpower/Maxpower PL-4xx on here

      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=166
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=110
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...light=maxpower

      probably the same thing under yet another name (as mentioned in the thread linked above)
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9446

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      • c_hegge
        Badcaps Legend
        • Sep 2009
        • 5219
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

        You could re build it like I did with mine, but if you don't want to do that, then the garbage bin is really the best place for it
        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

        Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

        Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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        • Ant3G
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 24

          #5
          Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

          Will post pics tomorrow, but anyway psu is going into garbage in 2-3days.
          Dont have time, neither parts to rebuild it.
          Last edited by Ant3G; 04-25-2011, 06:15 PM.

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          • Ant3G
            Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 24

            #6
            Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

            Here are pics so maybe someone can learn or find something from them. PSU is going into garbage. I dont have all the parts to rebuild it.
            Thanks for help to all of you who posted!
            Attached Files

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            • goodpsusearch
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2009
              • 2850
              • Greece

              #7
              Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

              That power supply is not bad. I would recap it and put a full input filter and keep it.

              I believe that the reason of the voltage flunctuation is bad main caps. I have seen those HECs fail a lot in maxpower psus.

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              • Evil Lurker
                Warranty Voider
                • Feb 2011
                • 454

                #8
                Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

                When a psu gets to the point where it eats a motherboard, basically IMO its not safe until you can test out the voltage sensing circuitry of the houskeeping IC. If a zener or other component has gone it cannot properly tell the PWM controller whats going on the secondary side. That could result in the PWM switching on too long or the duty cycle gets increased too much your looking at more blown caps or dead motherboards. Or if it is detecting too much voltage the reverse happens and the PWM tries to correct by reducing the duty cycle.

                IMO its not worth rebuilding since I don't see very many yellow 12v wires running off of it... its basically your typical older atx revision that is more heavily proportioned towards 5v output. You would probably be better off getting a new cheap unit with at least 20+ amps on one or more 12v rails with hopefully good sensing circuitry and build it up.

                But at the same time that PSU is not worth throwing away either. You can always salvage the fan off of it, and the housing makes for excellent project boxes. I took one here a while back, did some drilling on top of it mounted a cheap harbor freight 6 outlet wall plate adapter on top and it is now a power strip.

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                • c_hegge
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5219
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

                  It actually looks a bit better in some ways, but worse in other ways than my Rexpower-branded version. It does actually have an ERL-35 transformer (mine just had a 33), but that PSU would be illegal to run here in Aus, since there is no input filtering. One other problem is that Jamicon caps are junk and should NEVER under any circumstances be used, especially for re-capping.
                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                  No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                  Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                  Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                  • Ant3G
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

                    Originally posted by c_hegge
                    One other problem is that Jamicon caps are junk and should NEVER under any circumstances be used, especially for re-capping.
                    Store at my place dont have better caps (next time will need to ebay caps). Will buy new cheap PSU.

                    Originally posted by c_hegge
                    That power supply is not bad. I would recap it and put a full input filter and keep it.
                    Was afraid of that. None of the stores dont have them at my place. Even if they have it would be crap :P
                    Nothing without ebay and waiting for few days/weeks.

                    Thanks for suggestions

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                    • retiredcaps
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9271

                      #11
                      Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

                      Originally posted by Ant3G
                      Nothing without ebay and waiting for few days/weeks.
                      If you live in the USA, you have choices like badcaps.net, mouser.com, and digikey.com. USA members here get their digikey.com order in 48 hours.
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                      • c_hegge
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5219
                        • Australia

                        #12
                        Re: Maxpower PL-400 bad voltages

                        Carefull with using fleabay for caps. 90% of sellers only sell fake caps (ie. caps with rubycon on the label which are really made by HongKongFlyApart company (R), LLC). I'd recommend Badcaps.net. His prices are great, his caps are genuine, and he ships worldwide (almost).
                        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                        Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                        Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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