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  • mastsrl
    Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 38
    • Argentina

    #1

    Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

    i'm having an idsue with a Lenovo G50-30, motherboard ACLU9/ACLU0 NM-A311
    REV: 1.0

    motherboard powers on(power LED), but no post, no video(internal or external), no beep, nothing.

    All power rails check ok, i have all the ALW rails(5, 3.3, 1.8 and 1.0) on standby as well as the LP rails, i have also all the VS voltages and Vcore(0.76v) Vgfx(0.86v), Vsoc 1V and active voltages(Vddr at 1.35v, etc)

    There's nothing on the screen, so it's not a no backlight scenario only.

    reflashed bios with a dump that i got here: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54053 with no result.

    Also, pressing the power button for several seconds turns the motherboard off(so at least that logic is working).

    ¿any ideas?, ¿try another flash image?(flash chip seems to be ok, as i programmed it with blank check and verify and it passed everything ok)
  • lapfix
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 2719
    • my workshop

    #2
    Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

    Try to Clean me region fo your dump .

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    • mastsrl
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 38
      • Argentina

      #3
      Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

      Originally posted by lapfix
      Try to Clean me region fo your dump .
      how to do that?, i've never done it before with a BIOS dump, i just googled and found wildly varying information

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      • Stevedb
        Stevedb
        • Feb 2018
        • 624
        • Belgium

        #4
        Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

        Hi upload your Biosdump and ask in the bios section to clean your dump somebody Will do it for you then. Regards Steve

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        • Duranitron
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jul 2014
          • 544
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

          measure the vcc of the bios ic.. also the rtc battery
          .
          Never stop LEARNING because life never stops TEACHING!

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          • ktmmotocross
            Boardkiller
            • Feb 2014
            • 3582
            • slovakia

            #6
            Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

            just throw in other bios dump and ofcourse measure all coils for voltage

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            • mastsrl
              Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 38
              • Argentina

              #7
              Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

              i already managed to clean the ME settings after finding a guide, it didn't work.
              I also have another exact same model motherboard with another failure(blown EC), so i swapped flash chips between motherboards... nothing, same failure.

              I dumped that motherboard flash and did a ME cleanup, same issue.

              so far the bios i've tested are: one downloaded from the post i mentioned, no work
              swapped flash chips with another exact same model, no work.
              dumped that flash and cleaned ME region, no work.
              everytime same failure, no video out(in fact, screen remains totally dead, it's not a baccklight on but no graphics, it's totally dead), only power led

              @duranitron all voltages check ok, bios included.

              i'm baffled

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              • mastsrl
                Member
                • Apr 2019
                • 38
                • Argentina

                #8
                Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                i've been sent another BIOS, with replaced DMI area.. exactly the same issue

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                • mcplslg123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 7262
                  • india

                  #9
                  Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                  These sort of cases are very difficult to solve on soc structure. Still check ram clock/data signal(if u have oscilloscope better). Dramrst# on pin 30 of ram slot. All sys pwr good present??

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                  • mauda
                    Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 24
                    • Czech republic

                    #10
                    Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                    Hello @mastsrl, did you find a solution? I have a very similar problem.

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                    • mastsrl
                      Member
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 38
                      • Argentina

                      #11
                      Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                      no, and it's getting to be quite an issue with the customer.

                      I haven't checked dramrst, but as i've said in the 1st post, ALL power rails that i could measure are present and good.

                      So far we think it's a fried CPU, it's not the first lenovo with soldered CPU that has died

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                      • piernov
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 4435
                        • France

                        #12
                        Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                        Known good compatible DDR3L RAM?
                        Caps lock key triggering caps lock LED?
                        PLTRST# present?
                        OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                        • mauda
                          Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 24
                          • Czech republic

                          #13
                          Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                          @piernov
                          Known good compatible DDR3L RAM = yes, I tried.
                          Caps lock key triggering caps lock = no LED indication
                          PLTRST# present = 1.8V

                          Any other idea?
                          Last edited by mauda; 01-20-2021, 12:56 AM.

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                          • mauda
                            Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 24
                            • Czech republic

                            #14
                            Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                            I will measure all power rails before/after power on again and write them here.
                            I hope that this motherboard is not death

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                            • mauda
                              Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 24
                              • Czech republic

                              #15
                              Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                              Here are my measurements:

                              PL_coil = stand_by voltage, power_on voltage
                              ===========================
                              PL301 = 20.4V, 20.4V
                              PL302 = 2.74V, 2.74V (without battery)
                              PL402 = 3.38V, 3.38V
                              PL404 = 5.1V, 5.1V
                              PL502 = 0V, 1.37V
                              PL601 = 1.8V, 1.8V
                              PL603 = 0V, 1V
                              PL701 = 0V, 1.06V
                              PL902 = 0V, 0.9V
                              PL903 = 0V, 0.78V

                              Voltages on:
                              EEPROM 1st pin = 1.8V
                              ETC battery = 3V
                              DRAMRST# = 1.34V
                              PLTRST# = 1.8V

                              Not measured:
                              PL101, PL102, PL201, PL202, PL401, PL403, PL501, PL602, PL901

                              Please, help ... what next should I check?

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                              • mcplslg123
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 7262
                                • india

                                #16
                                Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                                You need to measure powergood signal of each and every pwm.

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                                • mauda
                                  Member
                                  • Mar 2016
                                  • 24
                                  • Czech republic

                                  #17
                                  Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                                  PG signals (coil>controller,PGpin = voltage):
                                  PL402>PU401,pin2 = 2.8V
                                  PL404>PU402,pin2 = 0.2V
                                  PL502>PU501,pin10 = 1.37V when power_on
                                  PL601>PU601,pin5 = 0.57V
                                  PL603>PU602,pin2 = 3.3V
                                  PL701>PU701,pin5 = 0.67V when power_on

                                  PL902+PL903>PU901:
                                  - pin8 = 5V
                                  - pin15 = 3.3V when power_on
                                  - pin22 = 5V
                                  - pin27 = 3.3V when power_on

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                                  • mauda
                                    Member
                                    • Mar 2016
                                    • 24
                                    • Czech republic

                                    #18
                                    Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                                    I also tried to measure some KBC pins (ENE KB9012QF A4).
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • mcplslg123
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jun 2015
                                      • 7262
                                      • india

                                      #19
                                      Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                                      PU402, PIN2 POWERGOOD should be 3V.

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                                      • mauda
                                        Member
                                        • Mar 2016
                                        • 24
                                        • Czech republic

                                        #20
                                        Re: Lenovo G50-30 no POST on powerup

                                        Can you please explain to me why the PU402 pin2 is not connected anywhere in the diagram?
                                        Attached Files

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