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  • kiraro
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    • Jan 2016
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    #61
    Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

    Originally posted by DanFen
    Hmm, that is a possibility. It's also 10k. But that still has no continuity to PIN 16. An no continuity to QE2.
    p330 continuity to pin3 pq309 ( first or second side )and other side continuity to pin16 ,I suggest it's pr330 ,measure voltage in and out ? if one side is connected to pin3 pq309 so it's sure pr330( because the other one in last post with continuity to qe2 it's pr331) the other side should be connected to pin 16 ,if no continuity to BQ24737_VDD = pin16 ,so make a jumper .
    Last edited by kiraro; 03-17-2020, 02:32 AM.

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    • DanFen
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      • Apr 2017
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      #62
      Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

      Lets refer them to old P330 and new P330 (old the one that is marked in the photo, new is the one you've asked about)

      Both have continuity to PIN 3 PQ309.
      None have continuity to PIN 16 BQ24737.
      None have voltage in/out.

      Originally posted by kiraro
      p330 continuity to pin3 pq309 ( first or second side )and other side continuity to pin16 ,I suggest it's pr330 ,measure voltage in and out ? if one side is connected to pin3 pq309 so it's sure pr330( because the other one in last post with continuity to qe2 it's pr331) the other side should be connected to pin 16 ,if no continuity to BQ24737_VDD = pin16 ,so make a jumper .

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      • kiraro
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        #63
        Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

        i resume it with this picture ,
        Attached Files
        Last edited by kiraro; 03-17-2020, 03:58 AM.

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        • kiraro
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          #64
          Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

          no old no new pr330 just refer to the picture i have mensionned, it's correct

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          • DanFen
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            • Apr 2017
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            #65
            Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

            I checked continuity from the PD303 (the pin you've highlighted) with DC in. And there was continuity almost everywhere on the board. PQ302 even, one one side only, and PR330, PR331, etc...

            I'll make a jumper. Can I use any wiring (i.e. from a desktop PSU)? Cause I don't have proper jumper wire (it's on delivery still)?

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            • kiraro
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              #66
              Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

              Originally posted by DanFen
              I checked continuity from the PD303 (the pin you've highlighted) with DC in. And there was continuity almost everywhere on the board. PQ302 even, one one side only, and PR330, PR331, etc...

              I'll make a jumper. Can I use any wiring (i.e. from a desktop PSU)? Cause I don't have proper jumper wire (it's on delivery still)?
              voltage on pd303 pin 2 it's 6v (pin 16)not dc in , according to the schematic pin 16 should be connected also to the commun side of pr330 (10k) and pr329(47k),that mean you should find this 6v in the commun side of those resistor

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              • kiraro
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                #67
                Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                i hope that will make things clear .
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                • DanFen
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                  #68
                  Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                  Yes yes I know what you mean, you were very clear My DC in was meant to be DC connected.

                  Can I cut a piece of wire from a desktop PSU and use that temporarily since I don't have the "proper" jump wire?

                  Originally posted by kiraro
                  voltage on pd303 pin 2 it's 6v (pin 16)not dc in , according to the schematic pin 16 should be connected also to the commun side of pr330 (10k) and pr329(47k),that mean you should find this 6v in the commun side of those resistor

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                  • kiraro
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                    #69
                    Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                    when you check continuity and resistance mode or diode mode you should disconnect the DC input ,DC input just to measure voltage ,so re measure the continuity like a explain on PDF to the commun side of pr330(10k) pr329(47k)
                    you can use it like a jumper just for testing but it's not the corret way but before that remesure .

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                    • DanFen
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                      #70
                      Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                      Did the jump wire, now I have 19V on PQ302.

                      Originally posted by kiraro
                      when you check continuity and resistance mode or diode mode you should disconnect the DC input ,DC input just to measure voltage ,so re measure the continuity like a explain on PDF to the commun side of pr330(10k) pr329(47k)
                      you can use it like a jumper just for testing but it's not the corret way but before that remesure .

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                      • kiraro
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                        #71
                        Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                        good now you have your B+, SECOND step check always voltage +3valw (pj402) and +5valw (pj406)

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                        • DanFen
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                          #72
                          Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                          PJ402 is receiving 3V
                          PJ406 is receiving the 5V

                          Originally posted by kiraro
                          good now you have your B+, SECOND step check always voltage +3valw (pj402) and +5valw (pj406)

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                          • kiraro
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                            #73
                            Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                            check 3 volt present on power button ?

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                            • DanFen
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                              #74
                              Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                              Yes it is

                              Originally posted by kiraro
                              check 3 volt present on power button ?

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                              • kiraro
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                                #75
                                Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                                so good,now try to power on the mobo and see if there is picture on the screen ( don't assembly the cable screen with DC input connected ,BE CAREFUL disconnect DC input and battery before assembly screen cable )
                                Last edited by kiraro; 03-17-2020, 03:42 PM.

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                                • DanFen
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                                  #76
                                  Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                                  That would be too easy :P It however powers on for a second, then it goes off.

                                  I proceeded to check the 1.35V, and it seems to be missing. Not sure if this is the proper way to troubleshoot this next issue.

                                  EDIT: battery was not used in the process, only DC (after screen was connected).

                                  Originally posted by kiraro
                                  so good,now try to power on the mono and see if there is picture on the screen
                                  Last edited by DanFen; 03-17-2020, 03:42 PM.

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                                  • kiraro
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                                    #77
                                    Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                                    so check resistance to ground for +1,35 line (pj502)?

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                                    • DanFen
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                                      #78
                                      Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                                      I don't understand what resistance to ground means, but it's 0.375.

                                      Originally posted by kiraro
                                      so check resistance to ground for +1,35 line (pj502)?
                                      Last edited by DanFen; 03-17-2020, 03:51 PM.

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                                      • kiraro
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                                        #79
                                        Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                                        Originally posted by DanFen
                                        I don't understand what resistance to ground means, but it's 0.375.
                                        that mean black probe to ground and red probe to pj502 and meter in resistance mode (without DC in ) what do you get ? you mean 0.375 ohm?

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                                        • DanFen
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                                          #80
                                          Re: Troubleshooting: Lenovo Motherboard

                                          By now I know how it's measured, but I don't know what it means i.e. what we're testing and how do we conclude it's good or bad.

                                          Yes ~0.375 on PJ502/3. Makes sense?

                                          Originally posted by kiraro
                                          that mean black probe to ground and red probe to pj502 and meter in resistance mode (without DC in ) what do you get ? you mean 0.375 ohm?
                                          Last edited by DanFen; 03-17-2020, 03:56 PM.

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