Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashing

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  • Levi
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 59
    • Ghana

    #41
    Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

    This type is of issues normally happen when there is a short circuit on the vbat line, in the case of your board or schematic, +vchgr line, the battery voltage line. When this happens a short circuit is introduced into the battery pack and subsequently disables(shorts) the communication lines; sda and scl.The host in this case, the motherboard(charging IC and EC) not seeing any communication from the battery pack will assume the battery has being disabled internally and hence post that kind of notification to your screen that your battery is disabled temporarily. To solve this problem, remove PR137 and check for short at both sides of it. the side that shows a short to grnd, u inject about 12v to the line and inspect any heating components. remove and replace the component and your problem is solved.
    Same as Kiraro was saying, just put in a more newbie form.
    This should solve your problem

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    • Ali101
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 152
      • Taiwan

      #42
      Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

      Originally posted by Levi
      This type is of issues normally happen when there is a short circuit on the vbat line, in the case of your board or schematic, +vchgr line, the battery voltage line. When this happens a short circuit is introduced into the battery pack and subsequently disables(shorts) the communication lines; sda and scl.The host in this case, the motherboard(charging IC and EC) not seeing any communication from the battery pack will assume the battery has being disabled internally and hence post that kind of notification to your screen that your battery is disabled temporarily. To solve this problem, remove PR137 and check for short at both sides of it. the side that shows a short to grnd, u inject about 12v to the line and inspect any heating components. remove and replace the component and your problem is solved.
      Same as Kiraro was saying, just put in a more newbie form.
      This should solve your problem
      Hi Levi,
      Thanks for head-up, unfortunately i am totally noobi so not understand much what you saying, first remove PR137 and than check for short at both sides of it, how to check this? with power on board included battery?

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      • dycc
        Vision
        • Nov 2011
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        • Côte d'Ivoire

        #43
        Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

        OK NOTHING WRONG WITH TRANSISTORS.
        ASSUME YOU HAVE A BAD BQ24707 IF ON PIN 6 YOU GOT VOLTAGE BETWEEN 2,6 AND 3 AND ON PIN 20 19V AND STILL HAVE 3V AT REGN_LDO

        REGN_LDO SHOULD BE 6V FOR A GOOD WORKING BQ24707


        THE CHARGING IC CAN BE THE ONE WHO BRING SHORT AT +vchgr line

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        • Levi
          Senior Member
          • May 2014
          • 59
          • Ghana

          #44
          Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

          with no power, no battery, to the board. put your multimeter to continuity or ohms mode. with black probe in ground put the red probe each side of PR137. the side that beeps or reads 0 ohms is the side that has the culprit component.

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          • Ali101
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 152
            • Taiwan

            #45
            Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

            i'll check BQ24707 Pin 6 & Pin 20 Voltages in an hour & post back here, its about near to duty off time here since i am on work now, so if Pin-6 showing 2.6 to 3 Voltages & Pin-20 showing 19 Voltages than it means BQ24707 IC is bad right..
            Thanks.

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            • dycc
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              #46
              Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

              Originally posted by levi
              with no power, no battery, to the board. Put your multimeter to continuity or ohms mode. With black probe in ground put the red probe each side of pr137. The side that beeps or reads 0 ohms is the side that has the culprit component.
              he did this test already . Read previous post

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              • Ali101
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 152
                • Taiwan

                #47
                Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                Originally posted by Levi
                with no power, no battery, to the board. put your multimeter to continuity or ohms mode. with black probe in ground put the red probe each side of PR137. the side that beeps or reads 0 ohms is the side that has the culprit component.
                oh i got it, i need to check PR137 from each pin with diode mode & ohm mode
                BTW what is PR137 call? its Resistor or Cap or zener? how to know what is its size?
                appreciated your help,
                Thanks.

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                • Ali101
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 152
                  • Taiwan

                  #48
                  Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                  Originally posted by dycc
                  he did this test already . Read previous post
                  @dycc, we not did this test yet, @Levi talking about pr137, below is yellow mark pr137
                  Attached Files

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                  • dycc
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                    • Nov 2011
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                    #49
                    Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                    Originally posted by Ali101
                    i'll check BQ24707 Pin 6 & Pin 20 Voltages in an hour & post back here, its about near to duty off time here since i am on work now, so if Pin-6 showing 2.6 to 3 Voltages & Pin-20 showing 19 Voltages than it means BQ24707 IC is bad right..
                    Thanks.
                    NO when BQ24707 is working properly
                    Pin-6 show between 2.6 to 3 (no ovp condition)
                    pin20: 19V
                    pin16 :6V

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                    • dycc
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                      • Nov 2011
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                      #50
                      Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                      Originally posted by Ali101
                      @dycc, we not did this test yet, @Levi talking about pr137, below is yellow mark pr137
                      pr137 is connected to pin 1 and 2 of jbat1

                      Dear dycc,
                      Below are results,
                      jbat1: pin1 and 2 ohm value (battery and charger disconnected , black probe of multimeter on ground and red probe on pin 1 and 2) = both pin have 1 result

                      jbat1: pin1 and 2 diode mode value (battery and charger disconnected , black probe of multimeter on ground and red probe on pin 1 and 2) = both pin have 1 result

                      jbat1: pin1 and 2 voltages (battery and adapter connected) = 1.8V
                      Thanks.

                      Pin 12 and 13 of BQ24707 ohm value
                      (Black probe on pin 12 & red probe on pin 13 = 18.8
                      (Battery and charger disconnected)
                      Last edited by dycc; 11-17-2017, 03:26 AM.

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                      • Ali101
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 152
                        • Taiwan

                        #51
                        Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                        Hi dycc,
                        Sorry i did mistake in morning to check BQ24707 IC Pin16, i checked again and below are results

                        BQ24707
                        Pin 16 Voltage test =13.27v
                        Pin 6=2.67 v
                        Pin 20=18.21v
                        Diode test
                        Black Probe on ground and red probe on IC Pin 16 = 1606
                        Red Probe on ground and black probe on IC Pin 16 = 631
                        Ohm test all resluts are 1

                        jbat1: pin1 and 2 diode mode value (battery and charger disconnected , red probe of multimeter on ground and red probe on pin 1 and 2) = both pin have 630 result

                        Thanks.

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                        • Ali101
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 152
                          • Taiwan

                          #52
                          Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                          Originally posted by Levi
                          with no power, no battery, to the board. put your multimeter to continuity or ohms mode. with black probe in ground put the red probe each side of PR137. the side that beeps or reads 0 ohms is the side that has the culprit component.
                          Dear Levi PR137 both side pins ohm and diode results = 1

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                          • dycc
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                            #53
                            Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                            as i said we have already done test levy asked for. also pin 16 must be 6V if you find 13v that mean IC is not good.

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                            • dycc
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                              • Nov 2011
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                              #54
                              Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                              Originally posted by Ali101
                              Hi dycc,
                              Sorry i did mistake in morning to check BQ24707 IC Pin16, i checked again and below are results

                              BQ24707
                              Pin 16 Voltage test =13.27v
                              Pin 6=2.67 v
                              Pin 20=18.21v
                              Diode test
                              Black Probe on ground and red probe on IC Pin 16 = 1606
                              Red Probe on ground and black probe on IC Pin 16 = 631
                              Ohm test all resluts are 1

                              jbat1: pin1 and 2 diode mode value (battery and charger disconnected , red probe of multimeter on ground and red probe on pin 1 and 2) = both pin have 630 result

                              Thanks.
                              pin 20 and 6 have good value . but pin 16 is not good.

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                              • Ali101
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 152
                                • Taiwan

                                #55
                                Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                                ok i got it, will wait for new IC & after replace will postyou results here,
                                Thanks.

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                                • Levi
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 59
                                  • Ghana

                                  #56
                                  Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                                  dycc has said it all.

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                                  • Ali101
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jul 2017
                                    • 152
                                    • Taiwan

                                    #57
                                    Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                                    Hi dycc,
                                    yesterday i received 5 peaces of Charging IC & i replaced it in board, after plugin power cable, smoke come out from board from IC place & IC got bun, than i desolder IC but it destroy two lines of IC from board so now seems like its impossible to solder an other IC on that place, now if i try to plugin board with charger without IC, my charger power goes auto off after plugin, below is board IC place where you can see IC place two lines been destroyed, any idea how i fixed it & make my board back alive, seems like very bad luck,
                                    Attached pic of charger as well, if i plugin charger with board now its blue light goes out off, not sure how much board got destroy & whether it have any chance to make it alive back,
                                    you help will he appreciated,
                                    Thanks.
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • Ali101
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2017
                                      • 152
                                      • Taiwan

                                      #58
                                      Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                                      Pin-2, 3, 4 been destroyed from board as below image you can see marked with yellow color,
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • Ali101
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2017
                                        • 152
                                        • Taiwan

                                        #59
                                        Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                                        Bump,
                                        @dycc , @Levi waiting for your comments,
                                        Thanks.

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                                        • mcplslg123
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Jun 2015
                                          • 7262
                                          • india

                                          #60
                                          Re: Dell Inspiron 17R 7720 "Your Battery is Temporarily Disabled", Battery LED Flashi

                                          Thats not abig issue. You first find the tracks of the two damaged pins. Solder the new ic on mb and connect those two pins on pcb thru jumper wire. Its delicate job but did it in many many mobos.

                                          Alternatively, you solder wire(i use ground wire from scrap lvds cable) on the ic first(without installing on mb), cut the wire as per target points on the mb. Now solder the ic on mobo and connect those wires on mb target track points. Be carefull too align the wires to the target point before applying heat. The wire wont come off when applying heat.

                                          Good luck.

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