Macbook Pro A2442 820-02098 No image but has backlight

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  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
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    #21
    Interesting thread. Would you not have a whatsapp contact at Seven Puppy? If not, can share one.

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    • mon2
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      • Dec 2019
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      #22
      Got censored on the post again. I would love to personally low level wipe the server software and with multpile over writes.

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    • a316
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      • Oct 2024
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      #23
      Originally posted by mon2
      Got censored on the post again. I would love to personally low level wipe the server software and with multpile over writes.
      not understand sarcasm?

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      • a316
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        • Oct 2024
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        #24
        Originally posted by a316

        found seller's flex has spi_tcon_clk_conn shorted to ground, on JP600 side. apple's flex has 4,5Om same pin to ground, flex disconnected
        my fault about apple's flex - spi_tcon_clk_conn has infinite resistance to ground

        but on seller-s flex -it is clearly shorted to ground. it is 4-th pin from left. =pin 28 and pin 30 both beeps on seller's flex, pin30 only beeps on apple's flex

        flex is DISCONNECTED when measuring

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        • a316
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          • Oct 2024
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          #25
          Originally posted by a316

          my fault about apple's flex - spi_tcon_clk_conn has infinite resistance to ground

          but on seller-s flex -it is clearly shorted to ground. it is 4-th pin from left. =pin 28 and pin 30 both beeps on seller's flex, pin30 only beeps on apple's flex

          flex is DISCONNECTED when measuring
          see picture 1 - this pin (marked black line) is shorted to ground on seller's flex
          picture 2 - this pin on seller's flex (red color) has 1.5 Om resistance to ground
          Attached Files

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          • MartZisto
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            • Dec 2024
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            #26
            Originally posted by a316

            found seller's flex has spi_tcon_clk_conn shorted to ground, on JP600 side. apple's flex has 4,5Om same pin to ground, flex disconnected

            it is like not flex, it likes has some parts inside

            let me know if this helps

            ps. spi_tcon_clk_conn connected to M1, be careful
            a316 alright interesting, wonder what I could do. Just got info that switching ic:s was not advised from them. Weird though. You didn't say though before, what part gets hot?

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            • a316
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              • Oct 2024
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              #27
              Originally posted by MartZisto

              a316 alright interesting, wonder what I could do. Just got info that switching ic:s was not advised from them. Weird though. You didn't say though before, what part gets hot?
              glass, up to 100 celsius, see photo I attached with screwdriver points there

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              • MartZisto
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                • Dec 2024
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                #28
                Originally posted by a316

                glass, up to 100 celsius, see photo I attached with screwdriver points there
                a316 trying to talk to them about sending me a flex so I can try reseating the original ic:s and see if that works. Truly terrible that they are not included from the get go

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                • a316
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                  #29
                  Originally posted by MartZisto

                  a316 trying to talk to them about sending me a flex so I can try reseating the original ic:s and see if that works. Truly terrible that they are not included from the get go
                  any result?

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                  • a316
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                    • Oct 2024
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                    #30
                    here is analysis of SUBJ issue: (need testing, pls contribute)

                    1. M1 can turn off image creation if spi_tcon_clk_conn is not ground (this is why seller's flex shorted)

                    2. such way if screen lcd has some (!!temporary) failure (mainly lcd <->tcon connection problems/ short) then M1 senses it and stops sending imagd to LCD even backlight exists

                    3. on earlier T2 after glitch LCD was recoveryng automatically (continue to show image), on M1 - no more, :-(

                    so solution is to make some button which shorts spi_tcon_clk_conn to ground and try to play with it. because after reboot M1 restores image creation (until spi_tcon_clk_conn is good), but reboot is not solution

                    any ideas?

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                    • a316
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                      • Oct 2024
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                      #31
                      other solution may be power off/on TCON board to restore image

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                      • MartZisto
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                        • Dec 2024
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                        #32
                        a316 seller let me return those ones, as I never received the flex. I got my money back from ali anyway. Now the seller will send two new units to me, as well as I found an original screen super cheap that I will test with also. No more news than that for me at the moment. But good research progress. Makes sense they would bypass any protection circuits.

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                        • MartZisto
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                          #33
                          a316 I just recieved new displays, both work with included flex. Somehow they even retained true tone?!?! Without swapping IC:s??? I am extremely confused

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                          • a316
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                            • Oct 2024
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                            #34
                            Originally posted by MartZisto
                            a316 I just recieved new displays, both work with included flex. Somehow they even retained true tone?!?! Without swapping IC:s??? I am extremely confused
                            true tone comes from original camera, not lcd

                            this is why lcd replace is good

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                            • mon2
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                              • Dec 2019
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                              #35
                              True tone is linked to the ALS (ambient light sensor) which is separate from the camera. There is a local level shifter involved in this communication path onboard. Do review this level shifter if the ALS is a suspect.

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                              • a316
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                                #36
                                Originally posted by mon2
                                True tone is linked to the ALS (ambient light sensor) which is separate from the camera. There is a local level shifter involved in this communication path onboard. Do review this level shifter if the ALS is a suspect.

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                                yes, it is linked to original display (ALS in chasis) and you have to replace ALS and dissasemble whole original display to have true tone

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                                • MartZisto
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                                  #37
                                  Originally posted by a316

                                  yes, it is linked to original display (ALS in chasis) and you have to replace ALS and dissasemble whole original display to have true tone
                                  a316
                                  I only replaced the lcd's, and all works as it should. Havent had that work before I think. I am happy.

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                                  • a316
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                                    #38
                                    Originally posted by MartZisto

                                    a316
                                    I only replaced the lcd's, and all works as it should. Havent had that work before I think. I am happy.
                                    if it not worked before, maybe assembly is not paired to current MoBo (it is paired to its old original MoBo)

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                                    • Jilanov
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                                      • Nov 2022
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                                      #39
                                      Originally posted by MartZisto
                                      a316 I just recieved new displays, both work with included flex. Somehow they even retained true tone?!?! Without swapping IC:s??? I am extremely confused
                                      Hey,
                                      Could you send me link to seller store or Whatsapp/Wechat. I have ordered over 20 LCDs from China for A2442 and until now only 3 worked with IC chip swap

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                                      • moophus
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                                        • Feb 2017
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                                        #40
                                        I have the same issue. at some point the screen started working again for a whole week with no issues. It was working so well I brought it on a 2 week trip. halfway through the trip the screen went out again. but I noticed that when I open the lid, the lcd turns on for a split second before turning off again (all the while, the backlight stays on and is adjustable) so then I noticed that if I keep opening and closing the lid, at some point, the lcd stays on! so I used it for the rest of the trip like this. playing with the lid until the lcd remains on. actually once it stays on, it will stay on indefinitely until I close the lid. very odd. Only after the trip did it start going dark again. Now I haven't been able to get the lcd to stay on any more. VERY odd symptoms.

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