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  • twonk9098
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 69
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    Lenovo Legion 5 high fan spin turns off after 34 seconds

    Hi all,

    I have a Lenovo Legion 5 with a Ryzen 7 series CPU and RTX 3070 GPU. My issue is that it turns on and all seems fine except after a few seconds the fans spin up high and the laptop turns off after 34 seconds.
    I can get into bios and can even boot and login to Windows however after 34 seconds no matter if Im at the bios screen or booted into Windows it will just turn off.

    I have managed to run HWmonitor and the temperatures of the CPU and GPU are fine, I can also touch the heatsync which is warm but not hot.

    I have tried a few new bios but exactly the same thing.

    If I remove US134 which is a thermal sensor then the laptop stays on for 65 seconds before turning off, putting it back it shuts off at 34 seconds again.

    I read on a forum that it maybe the MUX switch which if I disable discrete graphics in the BIOS does not change anything. I could remove the MUX chip but I'm not sure what will happen or what it will prove.

    Any ideas?

    Many thanks








  • barakuda123
    Member
    • Aug 2017
    • 16
    • uk

    #2
    Hi got exactly two same motherboards with this issue one had short on 3v ldo and 3vs line after replacing kbc edp mux and usb c pd controler board start but shuts off after 20-30sec , second same board cpu was dead ( No cristal oscilation) replaced cpu and same story laptop starts shows pictures can enter bios but again shutdown after about 30sec....
    Did you menage to sort this out?

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    • rewx5
      New Member
      • Apr 2023
      • 4
      • Magyarország

      #3
      Hi guys, have you figured this one out? I'm having the same issue!

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      • twonk9098
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 69
        • United Kingdom

        #4
        Hi guys, I finally figured it out. My issue was US1 which is a F75303M. It's a temp sensor chip for the CPU.
        Ordered mine from Aliexpress and fitted. Laptop is perfect now.
        Hope this helps.

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        • rewx5
          New Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 4
          • Magyarország

          #5
          Originally posted by twonk9098
          Hi guys, I finally figured it out. My issue was US1 which is a F75303M. It's a temp sensor chip for the CPU.
          Ordered mine from Aliexpress and fitted. Laptop is perfect now.
          Hope this helps.

          Awesome! How did you find out? Mine started doing this after I have removed the mosfets for the GPU and VRAM as the discrete gpu had a shorted mosfet.

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          • twonk9098
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2018
            • 69
            • United Kingdom

            #6
            Hi, I removed US1 because it is a sensor IC for the CPU according to the schematics. I noticed upon removal the laptop would stay on for 64 seconds instead of the 34 seconds with it installed. This made me think there was an issue with it therefore replaced it. After replacing it, the laptop worked totally fine. Tested under full load to and the temps got up to 89 degrees at a push.

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            • twonk9098
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 69
              • United Kingdom

              #7
              The other thermal sensor on the board is U134, I believe this one is for the GPU.

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              • denyslykh
                New Member
                • Jul 2022
                • 4
                • Ukraine

                #8
                Dear friends good day. Care to help me please, has same issue exactly after just changes ssd. Service guys told me that GPU chip is dead. Laptop is switch on for abt 30 sec, fan runs on max speed but after switch off. For this short 35 sec I can go into Bios and Windows whatever but for 35 sec. Device manager didn't find rtx 3070 even with some errors massages.
                Please help me what to check. How is possible to make dead gpu, laptop not used for gaming.

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                • twonk9098
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 69
                  • United Kingdom

                  #9
                  My issue was caused by changing the SSD without disconnecting the battery.

                  This caused an issue with US1.
                  The laptop would work fine for 34 seconds before turning off however the fans ran high.

                  To prove, remove US1 and turn the laptop on. Ensure you have the heatsync back in place.
                  Check how long the laptop stays on for, mine was just over 60 seconds. If this is the case, replace US1.

                  Regards




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                  • denyslykh
                    New Member
                    • Jul 2022
                    • 4
                    • Ukraine

                    #10
                    Many thanks for answer, in my case same situation, i am change ssd without disconnecting battery. Just for clarification do you have any missing device, because in my case I has missing rtx 3070 in device manager and guys from service tell me that gpu chip is out of order and should be replaced. That's why I am asking if you have missing device.

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                    • denyslykh
                      New Member
                      • Jul 2022
                      • 4
                      • Ukraine

                      #11
                      Also AMD video dissappear from device management. Only "Microsoft Srandard Dispaly" showing in video adapter column. Reinstall driver for AMD I can't. Not enough time. Someone can explain even rtx 3070 out of oder the laptop should continue working on internal amd graphics correct ?

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                      • twonk9098
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 69
                        • United Kingdom

                        #12
                        My RTX 3070 showed an error in device manager (exclamation mark). I am not sure about the AMD graphics.
                        I will say though that removing US1 gave me more time, it increased from 34 seconds to about 103 seconds. Just remove US1 and if you get the extra time then replace the IC. They about $8 from Aliexpress.

                        I will also say that the coils on the VM for GPU gave very low readings in diode mode on my multimeter. Around 0.01 ohm if I remember correctly however this is normal for this device.

                        I hope this helps.

                        Regards



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                        • twonk9098
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2018
                          • 69
                          • United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Also bare in mind, the AMD graphics is from the CPU and not the GPU. The RTX is from the GPU. It makes little sense for them both to fail especially when your CPU is working as it boots to bios and further.

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                          • twonk9098
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 69
                            • United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Oh and as I think about it, some may say it's the PCH however being AMD, there is no PCH.
                            Honestly, just remove that US1 and boot it up to see if you get extended time, if so, replace it.

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                            • davidebeatrici
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 86
                              • Italy

                              #15
                              twonk9098 The fans don't spin up anymore after removing US1, was that the case for you as well?

                              I can confirm the timing you provided, with and without the IC.​

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                              • davidebeatrici
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2020
                                • 86
                                • Italy

                                #16
                                I replaced US1 and the issue is fixed, thank you very much!

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                                • mon2
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Dec 2019
                                  • 14256
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  Thank you davidebeatrici for sharing. Very much appreciated!

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                                  • twonk9098
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Aug 2018
                                    • 69
                                    • United Kingdom

                                    #18
                                    Wow, I'm so glad my 8 month battle not just helped me.
                                    Thank you for the images and well done Davidebeatrici.

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                                    • twonk9098
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Aug 2018
                                      • 69
                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #19
                                      I have experienced a little more sinse my episode of this. I have had a couple of Lenovo Ideapads with not the same issue but similar symptoms. Both have happened after a SSD removal / exchange etc. It seems to me that on Lenovo you have to disconnect the battery before removing / inserting the SSD. Both Ideapads had blown EC chips then after replacing them they would shut off after windows had started etc.
                                      Unfortunately I cannot give exact times in seconds on these however what I would say is you have to disconnect the battery on ANY Lenovo laptop before anything else like removing a SSD or SODIMM.

                                      A little unsettling really, wonder if it's a way they trying to discourage people upgrading their laptops?


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                                      • davidebeatrici
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Dec 2020
                                        • 86
                                        • Italy

                                        #20
                                        I believe they would've soldered the SSD Apple-style if that was the case.

                                        Unfortunately the history of the computer in my hands is unknown, but do you perhaps know if the M.2 drive in yours was removed when the system was not fully turned off?

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