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  • dj_ricoh
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    • Jan 2013
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    #201
    Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

    hy guys i was reading the post and i try to tell you my xp maybe it will help!
    i had a notebook samsung that was contected without the 19 v adapter direct on 24v truck (: "silly guy" . the notebook will start only with the battery inserted and no other lights will show , if i remove the battery the notebook will not start. in windows the notebook will not detect the AC and will show the battery full like there was no adapter only full battery.

    So we change a sop8 ic mark on datasheet with q and a power management ic 90% is made by MAXIM maybe this will help you.
    first comment in this forum sry about that.
    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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    • Tuomo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 163
      • Finland

      #202
      Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

      Originally posted by dj_ricoh
      hy guys i was reading the post and i try to tell you my xp maybe it will help!
      i had a notebook samsung that was contected without the 19 v adapter direct on 24v truck (: "silly guy" . the notebook will start only with the battery inserted and no other lights will show , if i remove the battery the notebook will not start. in windows the notebook will not detect the AC and will show the battery full like there was no adapter only full battery.

      So we change a sop8 ic mark on datasheet with q and a power management ic 90% is made by MAXIM maybe this will help you.
      first comment in this forum sry about that.
      All help is appreciated.

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      • grahamw01
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        • Jan 2013
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        • UK

        #203
        Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

        I have had a play with it today, made sure all the components I have touched were seated properly, and still no signs of life.

        I will mention a few things I have noticed:

        There is now no connection between battery + and -. If i put the battery in and measure the voltage across the pins it is 0V... so it is just not going anywhere.

        When power cable is plugged in I can hear a clicking noise ever 1 second coming from the U33 area of the board, where as before there was a buzzing noise.

        I think when I put the motherboard in to try and turn it on I have blown something by short circuiting on the base of the laptop. The last time I saw life in this motherboard was right before I pressed the power button to try and turn it on. the light went out and that was it!

        So! What can I replace from the old one? lol.. I hate this thing, I am sorry I have taken so much of your time..

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        • grahamw01
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          • Jan 2013
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          #204
          Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

          Buzzing is coming from a few components around the DC power jack, PQ8 PQ9 PQ11 have some 1.33V, PQ10 pins 1-3 have 1.33V, pin 4 has 15V

          U33 does not seem active, there are a few capacitors with 1.5V and 0.5V on them but no 3.33V, C753 and C 657 are dead

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          • Tuomo
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            • Jan 2013
            • 163
            • Finland

            #205
            Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

            Originally posted by grahamw01
            Buzzing is coming from a few components around the DC power jack, PQ8 PQ9 PQ11 have some 1.33V, PQ10 pins 1-3 have 1.33V, pin 4 has 15V



            U33 does not seem active, there are a few capacitors with 1.5V and 0.5V on them but no 3.33V, C753 and C 657 are dead
            Sorry delay, i got my own project.

            Ok. Check the motherboard in order.

            If there is full Battery use first that and AC OFF.

            -PQ10 all PIN, checking if battery voltage is allowed to go +PWRSRC.

            -LDO PIN 7, you can check PC133 should be 5V.

            -PC134 should be 19V

            -PL5 and PL3.

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            • grahamw01
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              • Jan 2013
              • 256
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              #206
              Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

              Originally posted by Tuomo
              Sorry delay, i got my own project.

              Ok. Check the motherboard in order.

              If there is full Battery use first that and AC OFF.

              -PQ10 all PIN, checking if battery voltage is allowed to go +PWRSRC.

              -LDO PIN 7, you can check PC133 should be 5V.

              -PC134 should be 19V

              -PL5 and PL3.
              Thank you, no problem, I will check it later today (few hours)

              But if there is no voltage in between battery + and - when connected to the motherboard then there is nothing anywhere in the motherboard correct? Maybe I just popped a fuse or something?

              Thank you

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              • Tuomo
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                • Jan 2013
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                • Finland

                #207
                Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                Originally posted by grahamw01
                Thank you, no problem, I will check it later today (few hours)

                But if there is no voltage in between battery + and - when connected to the motherboard then there is nothing anywhere in the motherboard correct? Maybe I just popped a fuse or something?

                Thank you
                CN5 PIN1 and PIN6 Battery ON = 0V ?

                If I understand this correctly there is short circuit or Battery is empty.

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                • grahamw01
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                  • Jan 2013
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                  #208
                  Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                  Originally posted by Tuomo
                  CN5 PIN1 and PIN6 Battery ON = 0V ?

                  If I understand this correctly there is short circuit or Battery is empty.
                  correct, 0V. Battery is full, and in original motherboard U33 gets hot and pin 1 pin 6 voltage is 11V

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                  • Tuomo
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
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                    • Finland

                    #209
                    Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                    Originally posted by grahamw01
                    correct, 0V. Battery is full, and in original motherboard U33 gets hot and pin 1 pin 6 voltage is 11V
                    Remove the battery immediately.

                    There is short circuit and something may broke.

                    Check resistance CN5 PIN1, PIN6 and other PIN.

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                    • grahamw01
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #210
                      Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                      Originally posted by Tuomo
                      Remove the battery immediately.

                      There is short circuit and something may broke.

                      Check resistance CN5 PIN1, PIN6 and other PIN.
                      there is no connection (infinite resistance) between pin 1 and pin 6, haven't checked the others, this is just what I observed last night

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                      • Tuomo
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                        • Jan 2013
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                        #211
                        Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                        Originally posted by grahamw01
                        there is no connection (infinite resistance) between pin 1 and pin 6, haven't checked the others, this is just what I observed last night
                        Ok. I wait result for other PIN. Do not insert Battery.

                        There is two possibility, short circuit or PIN1 not connected at all.
                        Last edited by Tuomo; 02-12-2013, 08:27 AM.

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                        • grahamw01
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                          #212
                          Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                          Originally posted by Tuomo
                          Ok. I wait result for other PIN. Do not insert Battery.

                          There is two possibility, short circuit or PIN1 not connected at all.
                          no access to a VM at the moment but I used a bleep tester (so beeps if there is connection, higher pitched beep is more resistance)

                          pin 1 and pin 5 (there is actually just 5 pins not 6) is full beep so full connection, pin 1 to 2,3,4 is higher pitch beep so there is connectivity but with resistance

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                          • Tuomo
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                            #213
                            Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                            Originally posted by grahamw01
                            no access to a VM at the moment but I used a bleep tester (so beeps if there is connection, higher pitched beep is more resistance)

                            pin 1 and pin 5 (there is actually just 5 pins not 6) is full beep so full connection, pin 1 to 2,3,4 is higher pitch beep so there is connectivity but with resistance
                            So it is short circuit Battery + and - Battery?

                            If so we have to check where is it.

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                            • grahamw01
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                              • Jan 2013
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                              #214
                              Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                              Originally posted by Tuomo
                              So it is short circuit Battery + and - Battery?

                              If so we have to check where is it.
                              Yes that is correct

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                              • Tuomo
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                                • Jan 2013
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                                #215
                                Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                Originally posted by grahamw01
                                Yes that is correct
                                Ok. Now we need to limit the area where the short circuit is.

                                You can choose whichever is easier.

                                -Remove PL2 and PL1 or PQ3.

                                After that check resistance CN5 PIN1 and PIN5.

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                                • grahamw01
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                                  #216
                                  Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                  Originally posted by Tuomo
                                  Ok. Now we need to limit the area where the short circuit is.

                                  You can choose whichever is easier.

                                  -Remove PL2 and PL1 or PQ3.

                                  After that check resistance CN5 PIN1 and PIN5.
                                  Will do it in a few minutes, but why is pin 1 and pin 5 resistance coming up as infinite, as if there is no connection?

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                                  • Tuomo
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                                    • Jan 2013
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                                    #217
                                    Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                    Originally posted by grahamw01
                                    Will do it in a few minutes, but why is pin 1 and pin 5 resistance coming up as infinite, as if there is no connection?
                                    Hmm. Is there infinite or none resistance between PIN1 and PIN5?

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                                    • grahamw01
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                                      #218
                                      Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                      Originally posted by Tuomo
                                      Hmm. Is there infinite or none resistance between PIN1 and PIN5?
                                      Vm says infinite, beep check says no resistance.. it doesn't make any sense, I believe the beep check because its simpler..

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                                      • Tuomo
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                                        • Jan 2013
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                                        #219
                                        Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                        Originally posted by grahamw01
                                        Vm says infinite, beep check says no resistance.. it doesn't make any sense, I believe the beep check because its simpler..
                                        Which mode your VM is?

                                        Try ohm and diode mode.

                                        Put probes together and check what it shows.
                                        Last edited by Tuomo; 02-12-2013, 11:50 AM.

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                                        • grahamw01
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                                          #220
                                          Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                          Originally posted by Tuomo
                                          Which mode your VM is?

                                          Try ohm and diode mode.

                                          Put probes together and check what it shows.
                                          resistances are as follows:

                                          new motherboard pin 1 to pin: 2: 10kohms, 3: 5kohms, 4: 5 kohms, 5: 12Mohms

                                          old motherboard pin 1 to pin: 2: 10kohms, 3: 5kohms, 4: 5kohms, 5: 10kohms

                                          so, checked with 2 multi meters. I think there is no connection, or extremely high resistance of 12 Mohms

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