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  • salawayon
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2012
    • 568
    • philippines

    #1

    DV4-1435DX dead

    no charging light at charging port, won't power up, switch is ok.
    tried already changing the charging pin (whole assembly).
    tried already replacing the ENE KB926.
    5vdc and 3.3vdc are measurable, 3.3vdc at power switch is present.

    i'm also requesting for the schematics...

    board: JAL50LA-4101P Rev. 1.0

    thanks...
  • opamp
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 160
    • united states

    #2
    Re: DV4-1435DX dead

    Check page 5 of the schematic it will show you the power on sequence on.
    Attached Files

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    • salawayon
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2012
      • 568
      • philippines

      #3
      Re: DV4-1435DX dead

      Thanks for the schematics.
      Initial info I got:

      Pq103-19.88vdc
      Pin4-8.44vdc

      Pu102 - (393)
      Pin1 - 3vdc
      Pin2 - 1.2
      Pin3 - 1.4
      Pin4-0
      Pin5-19.28
      Pin6-3.28
      Pin7-1.2
      Pin8-1.8

      PD1- 3.28vdc

      PQ110 - no voltage reading at all pins.

      PU101 - (BQ24740)

      ENE KB926QF
      Pin32 - 2.6vdc
      Pin33 *- 3.33vdc
      Pin97 - 2.6vdc

      PQ102 (4407A) or fds6675bz
      Pin1234 *- 19.8vdc


      BTW, when does the blue led will lite up at charging pin?

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      • heavymachines
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2011
        • 1028
        • United States

        #4
        Re: DV4-1435DX dead

        most likely an reflow issue welcome to hp....even thou they have a lot of power issues as well i am betting on reflow with any dv series hp....

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        • salawayon
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Nov 2012
          • 568
          • philippines

          #5
          Re: DV4-1435DX dead

          this is intel chipset mainboard that mostly doesn't have videochip problem due to over heating. i only encountered once with Compaq F700 with Nvidia Videochip, no lights at all and won't power up. after reflowing the nvidia chip it power up.

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          • opamp
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 160
            • united states

            #6
            Re: DV4-1435DX dead

            Originally posted by salawayon
            Thanks for the schematics.
            Initial info I got:

            Pq103-19.88vdc
            Pin4-8.44vdc

            Pu102 - (393)
            Pin1 - 3vdc
            Pin2 - 1.2
            Pin3 - 1.4
            Pin4-0
            Pin5-19.28
            Pin6-3.28
            Pin7-1.2
            Pin8-1.8

            PD1- 3.28vdc

            PQ110 - no voltage reading at all pins.

            PU101 - (BQ24740)

            ENE KB926QF
            Pin32 - 2.6vdc
            Pin33 *- 3.33vdc
            Pin97 - 2.6vdc

            PQ102 (4407A) or fds6675bz
            Pin1234 *- 19.8vdc


            BTW, when does the blue led will lite up at charging pin?
            The charging light should be present when power is ok. Ene ic has more than 3 voltages make sure they are all present also LM393 should have voltage like this:

            1)3.3v
            2)1.2v
            3)1.4v
            4)0v
            5)1.8v
            6)1.2v
            7)3.3v
            8)19v

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            • heavymachines
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2011
              • 1028
              • United States

              #7
              Re: DV4-1435DX dead

              Originally posted by salawayon
              this is intel chipset mainboard that mostly doesn't have videochip problem due to over heating. i only encountered once with Compaq F700 with Nvidia Videochip, no lights at all and won't power up. after reflowing the nvidia chip it power up.
              well intel and ati has reflow problems too its not limited to nvidia , one thing they have in common is no lead soldier oh yeah xbox rrod has that in common as well...again no lead soldier ...and many tv's have that problem on their mainboards.... i have had to reflow all but tv's so far...but best way is to reball.. still have to master that skill....

              it all comes down to how hot it got......plugged heat sink or heat stress marks on gpu and cpu are sure fire sign it got hot...


              but their is a chance its a power issue i would not rule that out entirely either...

              here are different reflow symptoms i delt with... no power, power on no video, power on boots but no wireless, turns on shuts right back off, turns on no video to it's own display but will display to vga output... it all depends on what pins came disconnected under the bga chip could be gpu could be south bridge.......and somebody else here not too long ago had one where it would not show dvd drive and it was an hp dv series.........
              Last edited by heavymachines; 01-23-2013, 07:55 PM.

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              • salawayon
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Nov 2012
                • 568
                • philippines

                #8
                Re: DV4-1435DX dead

                Originally posted by opamp
                The charging light should be present when power is ok. Ene ic has more than 3 voltages make sure they are all present also LM393 should have voltage like this:

                1)3.3v
                2)1.2v
                3)1.4v
                4)0v
                5)1.8v
                6)1.2v
                7)3.3v
                8)19v
                PU102 is LM393 in my post. All voltages are present.

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                • opamp
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 160
                  • united states

                  #9
                  Re: DV4-1435DX dead

                  No they are not recheck and compare. Check the resistors around LM393.

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                  • salawayon
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 568
                    • philippines

                    #10
                    Re: DV4-1435DX dead

                    What do you mean recheck and compare? The posted values were the actual readings that I got. Tried already replacing the LM393 but same status.no light at charging pin.

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                    • degutji
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 173
                      • Indonesia

                      #11
                      Re: DV4-1435DX dead

                      Originally posted by opamp
                      No they are not recheck and compare. Check the resistors around LM393.
                      Maybe this is what opamp mean ,

                      Pu102 - (393) Salawayon test
                      Pin1 - 3vdc
                      Pin2 - 1.2
                      Pin3 - 1.4
                      Pin4-0
                      Pin5-19.28
                      Pin6-3.28
                      Pin7-1.2
                      Pin8-1.8


                      Opamp -> The charging light should be present when power is ok. Ene ic has more than 3 voltages make sure they are all present also LM393 should have voltage like this:

                      1)3.3v
                      2)1.2v
                      3)1.4v
                      4)0v
                      5)1.8v
                      6)1.2v
                      7)3.3v
                      8)19v

                      Compare by yourself , see the red marking

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                      • opamp
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 160
                        • united states

                        #12
                        Re: DV4-1435DX dead

                        Ok I see what you are doing. All so-8 package chips have pin 8 across pin 1 now you say PD1 has 3.3 volts?? I think you mean PD104 and that diode should be 19v. Check pin 25 on ENE.
                        Last edited by opamp; 01-24-2013, 01:17 PM.

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                        • RobRocks
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Re: DV4-1435DX dead

                          Hello, if all voltages seem ok, flash bios, if still not working, replace kbc, still not working replace clock generator. check if laptop drains more current then 0.01A? At least if voltages are ok, bios ok, kbc ok charging light should come, battery should charge. Check if acin acdetect is working, i think there wa resistor somewhere which likes to go up in value so the adaptor is no more detected, check the schematic.

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