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    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 51
    • Australia
    #1

    Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

    Hi Guys,
    I have a nyko databank that allows a 3.5" HDD to be used with a PS4.
    The thing has stopped powering up any HDDs (the HDDstill works in a PC)
    I have traced the issue to the 12V power supply. when sitting idle the power jumps all over the place as in this video:
    https://youtu.be/7jh1wkTOnXQ
    You can hear the beep when i switch it on but then the voltage reading goes nuts.

    The 5v comes from the console but plugs into the smaller white connector on the power supply (either to switch it on or just allow the 5v to pass through to the larger connector where both 12v and 5v run up to the sata plug)
    5v seems fine: https://youtu.be/xQZaVRKtNks

    The soldering quality is also not so good with a lot of joints that will at least need a reflow to make me feel happy. It also contains Jwco and Chong Capacitors that I should also replace if I want this thing to live a long time.
    Everything else looks ok, i'm not sure where to start on this one.
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    I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
    Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.
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    • Per Hansson
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2005
      • 5895
      • Sweden
      #2
      Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

      Well it could be as simple as the caps are gone...
      Try heating it up to 60°C or so and see if it behaves better.
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 30978
          • Albion
          #3
          Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

          dont connect it to a drive till it's fixed - unless you want to risk the drive.

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            • goontron
              5000!
              • Dec 2011
              • 4108
              • US
              #4
              Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

              Originally posted by stj
              dont connect it to a drive till it's fixed - unless you want to risk the drive.
              +1 i could just see the 12v hitting 17v!
              Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

              "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

              Excuse me while i do something dangerous


              You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

              Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

              Follow the white rabbit.

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                • synapse
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 51
                  • Australia
                  #5
                  Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                  Yeah absolutely, haven't connected the HDD since I noticed it not working.
                  I was expecting it to be totally dead, not jumping all over the place like that.

                  I think I'll start by replacing the caps with something decent (usually Panasonic is easiest for me to get) and i'll rework the bad solder joints and see how it goes.
                  I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                  Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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                    • TechGeek
                      Computer Geek
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 2254
                      • USA
                      #6
                      Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                      have any old drives that you don't need?
                      Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                      My computer doubles as a space heater.

                      Permanently Retired Systems:
                      RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                      Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                      Kooky and Kool Systems
                      - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                      - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                      - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                      - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

                      sigpic

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                        • synapse
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 51
                          • Australia
                          #7
                          Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                          Originally posted by TechGeek
                          have any old drives that you don't need?
                          Not any old days ones no.... It's ok I'll make sure it's healthy before plugging it back in.
                          I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                          Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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                            • synapse
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 51
                              • Australia
                              #8
                              Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                              Well a disappointing update.....
                              I started off by replacing all the caps with Panasonic ones (what was on there were crap so worth replacing anyway) and re-flowed all the bad soldering.
                              and it still does the same thing

                              As the 12v only goes haywire once the console is turned on, I'm thinking there is something faulty that runs off the 5v it receives from the console (5v goes into the smaller of the two white connectors)
                              I'll have to try and trace it out.

                              Anyone else have any tips?
                              I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                              Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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                                • TechGeek
                                  Computer Geek
                                  • Jan 2015
                                  • 2254
                                  • USA
                                  #9
                                  Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                  Sounds like something in the console is going haywire...
                                  Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                                  My computer doubles as a space heater.

                                  Permanently Retired Systems:
                                  RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                                  Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                                  Kooky and Kool Systems
                                  - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                                  - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                                  - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                                  - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

                                  sigpic

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                                    • synapse
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jun 2012
                                      • 51
                                      • Australia
                                      #10
                                      Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                      Originally posted by TechGeek
                                      Sounds like something in the console is going haywire...
                                      it wouldn't be, because that same 5v from the console powers the original 2.5" HDD without any issues.
                                      I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                                      Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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                                        • sam_sam_sam
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Jul 2011
                                          • 6033
                                          • USA
                                          #11
                                          Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                          What is the part number of the two surface mount ic chips 8 pin ones on the back of the board ?
                                          It is hard to tell from the photo but it looks like one the 3 pin surface mount ic chip looks like it is burnt on the low voltage side of board in the photo if this case that would explain the problem your having
                                          Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 11-19-2016, 10:47 AM.

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                                            • synapse
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jun 2012
                                              • 51
                                              • Australia
                                              #12
                                              Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                              Originally posted by sam_sam_sam
                                              What is the part number of the two surface mount ic chips 8 pin ones on the back of the board ?
                                              It is hard to tell from the photo but it looks like one the 3 pin surface mount ic chip looks like it is burnt on the low voltage side of board in the photo if this case that would explain the problem your having
                                              Hi Sam,
                                              The part numbers on those 8 pin chips are 9435 1622.

                                              Yeah that 3 pin ic had some sort of flux or something on it that wiped off. it looks ok to me, i'll upload another pic of that section of the board.
                                              I think that may have also been one of the joints I reflowed that didn't look too good.

                                              This is pretty much where i'm up to. trying to google the numbers on the IC's but not having much luck so not 100% sure what each pin is.
                                              Attached Files
                                              I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                                              Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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                                                • synapse
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Jun 2012
                                                  • 51
                                                  • Australia
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                                  I think I found the problem.
                                                  one of those 8pin IC's is shorted. I'll remove it and test to be sure.
                                                  looks like these mosfets are it: http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/products/6710750/
                                                  thanks for the tip in the right direction.
                                                  Last edited by synapse; 11-20-2016, 06:45 AM.
                                                  I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                                                  Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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                                                    • sam_sam_sam
                                                      Badcaps Legend
                                                      • Jul 2011
                                                      • 6033
                                                      • USA
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                                      I thought that the way the part was lay out on the board that it might be a MOSFET and if was that might be the place to look at

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                                                        • synapse
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Jun 2012
                                                          • 51
                                                          • Australia
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Nyko Data Bank for ps4 not powering HDD

                                                          gah this thing is anoying....
                                                          yes one of those mosfets was shorted, and no, replacing it still hasn't solved the issue
                                                          I'm currently a Part-time Computer Systems Engineering student.
                                                          Full time Service Assurance (faults) for a large Telco.

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