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  • willawake
    Super Modulator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #1

    ABIT VL6

    Customer said comp was taking longer and longer to start each day. I checked the board and most caps bad. Curiously it had not been crashing. Now it is dead - no power up. Was sitting right next to the radiator too although that blows hot air out the top, away from the comp.

    (Black) Jackcon 1500 6.3V x 5
    (Black) Jackcon 1000 10V x 11
    (Green) Jackcon 1500 6.3V x 6
    (Green) Jackcon 2200 6.3V x 3

    The black 1500s did not look too bad but we know they gonna have to go. Worried about the board being dead part. Hope the caps failed open. Nothing looks burnt. Two of the caps have leaked electrolyte down the board over some smt components and stuff. You can see the two green caps to the right of the CPU top have made a snail trail down to the AGP card. Also the Green cap above the CPU to the left has a big collection of electrolyte hanging off the bottom. Should have been taken out of service earlier really.











    Look at the dirty bastard (2200uf)



    Another leaker (2200uf)



    and another (2200uf)

    Using a Q-tip/cotton bud with alcohol on one side and nothing on the other and alternating between both is cleaning the board nice.
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  • willawake
    Super Modulator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #2


    Recapped with Panasonic FC. It was an emergency recap so used the same values except for the 2200 6.3V which were replaced with 3300 6.3V. The large sizes of those meant that it looks bad but works great.

    So many caps on that board I actually sprained my wrist a bit using the solder sucker. burnt one finger also :evil:
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    • gg1978
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2004
      • 431
      • USA

      #3
      Heh, i've got an Abit VL6 that i recapped.. Exact same caps failed too, all except the bank next to the CPU. I replaced all of them except the ones next to the CPU, with Nichicon UPW series. The set of 4 1500u's by the top of the board i replaced with a pair of 3300's. Also beefed up the Vtt circuit with slightly more capacitance. I'm not currently using the board, but i'll probably replace the bank by the CPU too, if i put it back in use.

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      • willawake
        Super Modulator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8457
        • Greece

        #4
        getting another one today with the same today. One reason I do not recommend to buy identical machines in small offices, mix components otherwise get downtime at the same time. This one they have not leaked all over the place (the machine was not next to the radiator like the first).

        On the first board there was a program error :o when starting windows, heh i thought i had messed up but memory tested/stress tested the comp like hell and was stable. When i delivered the board the client said it was normal to have that error. whew.

        the caps around the cpu I would recommend to replace on your board. They are no good. better to finish the job and be happy.

        Please explain how you replaced the four with a pair of 3300s. That is interesting.
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        • willawake
          Super Modulator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8457
          • Greece

          #5
          that comp did a wierd thing twice but both of times was when i carried it around (i think only then but not sure). When the comp was started the post started beeping. Then i reseat the ram and it is powers up ok. I am thinking about this now cos it is the first time i have seen such a problem from carrying a comp around. Wonder if there was a prob with the recapping? any ideas cos i am about to do another one the same way?

          guess i find out on monday if it ok when they go back to work.
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          • gg1978
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Dec 2004
            • 431
            • USA

            #6
            The first picture best illustrates what i did. The group of 5 caps on the outside edge of the board, between the ATX PWR connector and the CPU fan header, i replaced with (2) 3300uF Nichicon UPW's, and (1) 1500uF Nichicon UPW. The 3300's are the large can diameter, so there was no way to fit four on there, so i substitued the pair of 3300's for the (4) 1500's that were in those locations before. Then i put the 1500 in the other place. I believe all those are in parallel, so all of them could have been replaced by a 4700 and a 3300. Gives 600uF extra capacitance, and IIRC, that's the input side of the CPU VRM, although i would have to verify that with my DMM to be sure.

            Given how shitty the original caps were, and how bad the ESR was on them, i doubt the possibly slightly higher ESR from using 3 caps instead of 5 will affect anything. The board will run 150FSB just fine..

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            • willawake
              Super Modulator
              • Nov 2003
              • 8457
              • Greece

              #7
              ok but say you have a row of 4 caps in parallel, how do you place the leads of the 2 new caps to replace the 4 old ones.
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              • kc8adu
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8832
                • U.S.A!

                #8
                Originally posted by willawake
                ok but say you have a row of 4 caps in parallel, how do you place the leads of the 2 new caps to replace the 4 old ones.
                all the + leads are tied together and so are all the -
                just install a cap in every other position.
                i have done this myself on my own boards.
                the new high quality caps are much lower esr than the taiwan cheapies ever thought of being.

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                • willawake
                  Super Modulator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8457
                  • Greece

                  #9
                  thanks kc8 and gg1978. i did that mod and it works.
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                  • Junk Parts
                    Court Jester
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 8953
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: ABIT VL6

                    Dear Sir,
                    I'm new to this site. I just checked my Abit VL6, and four, and maybe more of the green tall Caps are leaking Cap Crap The board is still working now but we all know its going to go down soon. It makes me so angery because this board , and FCPGA Intel 1 Gig. cpu have worked so well together. Ican't see well enough to recap this thing so I need to buy a new mobo. If I were to find a "New Old Stock" Abit VL6 board would it have the same problem right out of the box because of its age? Should I replace the VL6 with some other mobo brand? Thanks for your time.
                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                    Mark Twain

                    "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                    John Paul Jones

                    There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                    Rod Serling

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                    • Per Hansson
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 5895
                      • Sweden

                      #11
                      Re: ABIT VL6

                      Originally posted by Junk Parts
                      Dear Sir,
                      I'm new to this site. I just checked my Abit VL6, and four, and maybe more of the green tall Caps are leaking Cap Crap The board is still working now but we all know its going to go down soon. It makes me so angery because this board , and FCPGA Intel 1 Gig. cpu have worked so well together. Ican't see well enough to recap this thing so I need to buy a new mobo. If I were to find a "New Old Stock" Abit VL6 board would it have the same problem right out of the box because of its age? Should I replace the VL6 with some other mobo brand? Thanks for your time.
                      Why not send it in to Topcat to get it profesionally recapped?

                      Yes, as you suspect any old Socket 370 board will by now most probably have flaky caps unless it has been recapped already...
                      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                      • Junk Parts
                        Court Jester
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 8953
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: ABIT VL6

                        Originally posted by Per Hansson
                        Why not send it in to Topcat to get it profesionally recapped?

                        Yes, as you suspect any old Socket 370 board will by now most probably have flaky caps unless it has been recapped already...


                        Thank you. I will look up Topcat and see what it will cost. Should I have every cap on the board replaced?
                        "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                        Mark Twain

                        "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                        John Paul Jones

                        There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                        Rod Serling

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                        • Junk Parts
                          Court Jester
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 8953
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: ABIT VL6

                          I'm not having any luck finding Topcat. I am in the U.S.A. where is Topcat lacated?
                          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                          Mark Twain

                          "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                          John Paul Jones

                          There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                          Rod Serling

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                          • Per Hansson
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 5895
                            • Sweden

                            #14
                            Re: ABIT VL6

                            He is the owner of these boards, you can contact him with the contact form directly at www.badcaps.net or send him a PM, Topcat
                            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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