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  • Rainbow
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2005
    • 1371

    #21
    Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

    The problem is that most newer PSUs have strong 12V rail(s) and 5V is weaker.
    Total +5V & +3.3V power:
    SkyHawk: unknown
    MS Industrial KYP-350W: 188W
    DTK PTP-2007: +5V&+3.3V total output 110W
    And as you can see from above, the ratings printed on the sticker have no meaning.

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    • hkivan
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 122

      #22
      Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

      The KYP-350W is quite OK for K7 if
      it can really give out 188W combine power.
      However, I think it can't!

      SO, in drawing a conclusion, don't said
      those m/bs poor or good without even
      given them enough power. A different
      PSU may lead to a different story.

      You don't need to chose High-end PSUs
      but also, don't chose those very cheap .
      For ATX 12V 2.0 or later versions PSUs,
      even 500W to 600W , they only give
      around 150W on 5.5v & 3.3V combined output.

      My huntkey 300W give out 180W combined power.
      It is ATX 12V 1.3 version. and It runs more or less
      up to its specification.
      It costed me under 200HKD only.
      ( 200HKD = 25.6USD )

      All in all, chose a right PSU for your m/b.
      ******************************************

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      • Chris1992
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2005
        • 561

        #23
        Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

        We're interested in seeing a pic of your Huntkey 300w, hkivan. Post a pic in the PSU pictorial thread.
        The great capacitor showdown!

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        • hkivan
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 122

          #24
          Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

          I dont have a digital camera.
          But here are the links for your reference .
          http://www.belson.com.cn/chinese/pdetail.asp?pid=728
          http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/49/49162_3.shtml

          In fact, I brought it in ShenZhen, a city of china that
          just next to hongkong. Many of the PC parts there
          are a bit expensive than HK.
          ******************************************

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          • Harvey
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2007
            • 264

            #25
            Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

            Originally posted by Rainbow
            ...
            K7S41 had shorted NPN transistor for chipset power, other two were OK.
            I've just had the same issue, a K7S41GX I've been using for testing and generally messing about with suddenly refused to POST, on investigation I found the northbridge supply transistor Q15 had popped its clogs (actually it fell apart as I was unsoldering it). Its a C5706, and as I've not got anything remotely similar handy I just bunged in a 2SD1802 ripped out from another board to test, and it works... but I'm not happy so I'll have to find something better before long.

            K7S41 has very serious problems with IDE bus loading - it corrupts data with slightly longer cables.
            There's a setting in the BIOS for IDE drive strength - but I've no idea why or what it actually does.

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            • RJARRRPCGP
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jul 2004
              • 6304
              • USA

              #26
              Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

              Originally posted by Rainbow
              Much - and I tested with only Celeron 1.7GHz CPU. These boards claim Prescott support too...


              ASRock P4i48 and P4VT8+. There is no ATX12V connector and the Vcore MOSFETs are connected to 5V.
              That's oddball! And even with socket A, things were being migrated to the 12 V connector!

              Thus, probably the latest motherboard running off the 5 V rail is the Asus A7N8X family.
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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #27
                Re: ASRock mobo with OSTs

                Putting Vcore on +12v was 'recommended' by Intel's design guides way back since the i810 chipset but no one (or few) made the switch until P4.
                -
                Reason was probably available PSU's at the time had about squat on +12v and Mobo manufacturers didn't want to tell people they had to buy a new PSU too if they wanted to use their boards.

                Look at Vcore VRM in figure 4-1.
                - "Figure 4-1. Intel 810 Chipset Power Delivery Architecture"


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