WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

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  • testas86
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 140

    #21
    Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

    Thats what i thought but didnt want to switch up the names. But as i look at it further that black line looks like a crack, im assuming that if it is it would cause some major problems correct?

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    • testas86
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 140

      #22
      Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

      so after googling the numbers on the transformer i cant seem to find anything to replace it.

      tk 430k 101-821061
      --02

      thats all the markings i could find on the transformer.

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      • testas86
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 140

        #23
        Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

        sorry 430 1k**

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        • retiredcaps
          Badcaps Legend
          • Apr 2010
          • 9271

          #24
          Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

          Originally posted by testas86
          sorry 430 1k**
          Can you tell it is cracked or does it look cracked?

          Well, IF it is actually cracked, this is the closest replacement I can find.

          http://lcdparts.net/TransformerDetai...ProductID=2775

          It is not an exact replacement, but you can email them and ask if they have unlisted stock or something?

          Your best bet may be to replace the shorted transistors, try the monitor and if it still fails, try to find a new transformer.
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          • testas86
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 140

            #25
            Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

            thanks! sorry im new this type of work. ive replaced 100's of caps but i have no clue how to find transistors and transformers ill remove those transistors asap

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            • testas86
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 140

              #26
              Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.






              these are the two other transistors that i need to find. also where would i go to buy buys digikey? how do i look them up?
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              • retiredcaps
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                • Apr 2010
                • 9271

                #27
                Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                Originally posted by testas86
                these are the two other transistors that i need to find. also where would i go to buy buys digikey? how do i look them up?
                Q is for transistor. D is for diode. These 2 are diodes (dual diodes).

                To properly test them, do this. pin 2 is center pin.

                Put your multimeter on diode test.

                1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. Record/report diode measurement.
                2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. Record/report diode measurement.
                3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. Record/report diode measurement.
                4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. Record/report diode measurement.

                Do the same for the other diode.

                Report measurements and we will tell you if they are bad or not.

                Just to doublecheck, what ohm measurements did you get on the bad transisotr (k3113)?
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                • testas86
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 140

                  #28
                  Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                  ah well that really helps out alot! hahahaha ill get those measurements ASAP

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                  • testas86
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 140

                    #29
                    Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                    k3114 measurements:

                    com pin 1 red pin 2= meter doesnt change from 1 also cycled through different ohms 2000k -200

                    com pin 1 red pin 3= meter set to 20kohm reads 10.02

                    com pin 2 red pin 3= meter builds up and doesnt cap out even on 2000k ohms


                    sbf1060ct measurements:

                    1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                    2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                    3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                    4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop


                    stpf1020ct measurements:

                    1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                    2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                    3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                    4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop

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                    • momaka
                      master hoarder
                      • May 2008
                      • 12168
                      • Bulgaria

                      #30
                      Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                      sbf1060ct and stpf1020ct measurements look good. The reason you get a resistance that constantly goes up is because your meter is charging the electrolytic capacitors.
                      Also, if your meter doesn't have a diode/continuity test, use the 2000 Ohm scale only to test diodes. Out of circuit, a good diode will test between 100 and 1000 Ohms one way and appear open circuit the other way. A bad diode will show close to 0 ohms (short circuit) in both directions.

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                      • retiredcaps
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 9271

                        #31
                        Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                        Originally posted by testas86
                        k3114 measurements:

                        com pin 1 red pin 3= meter set to 20kohm reads 10.02

                        sbf1060ct measurements:

                        1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. meter set to 20k and numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                        Let's try this again.

                        What is the make and model number of your multimeter? For example, you might answer Craftsman model 34555.

                        For the transistor test, just choose the 200 ohm setting and leave it there. Retest pin 1 to pin 3. If it reads 1 on the left hand side, the multimeter is telling you the resistance is > 200 ohms. If it really reads 10.2 ohms, it is shorted.

                        For the diode tests, choose the diode setting on your multimeter. It will look like an arrow pointing to the right. Once you find it, retest the diodes.
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                        • testas86
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                          • May 2010
                          • 140

                          #32
                          Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                          ok i retested the transistor com 1 and red 3 and it came back 1 at 200ohms

                          sbf1060ct measurements:

                          1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. 130
                          2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                          3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. 129
                          4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop


                          stpf1020ct measurements:

                          1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. 419
                          2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                          3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. numbers seem to keeps going up with out stop
                          4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. just shows a 1 on the left side

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                          • testas86
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 140

                            #33
                            Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.



                            this is my multimeter
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                            • retiredcaps
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9271

                              #34
                              Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                              See that arrow symbol (in the red box) just right of the 200 ohm? That is your diode test function. Please retest the diodes with that function. Or are the results in post #32 done with the diode test?

                              BTW, I have that exact same multimeter. It is absolute crap. I got a different one.

                              Question: After you test the diode in diode setting functionality, switch it back to 200 ohms and touch the red and black probe together. What reading do you get?
                              Last edited by retiredcaps; 08-21-2010, 05:31 PM.
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                              • testas86
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
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                                #35
                                Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                its a DT-830b digital multimeter

                                and .7

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                                • testas86
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2010
                                  • 140

                                  #36
                                  Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                  i also have a mastech mas830L

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                                  • retiredcaps
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                                    • Apr 2010
                                    • 9271

                                    #37
                                    Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                    Originally posted by testas86
                                    i also have a mastech mas830L
                                    I'm sure the mastech will be way better. I hate to ask, but please redo ALL your measurements again. I have no faith in the DT-830b readings (I have one and it is busted).

                                    It shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes to remeasure. Please post results including the reading when you touch the two probes together (this is your baseline/calibration).
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                                    • testas86
                                      Senior Member
                                      • May 2010
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                                      #38
                                      Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                      with the mastech

                                      SET TO 200 .7 when touched red and black probes together


                                      k3114 measurements:

                                      com pin 1 red pin 2= 1. set on 2k ohms

                                      com pin 1 red pin 3= 1. set on 2k ohms

                                      com pin 2 red pin 3= 1. set on 2k ohms


                                      sbf1060ct measurements:

                                      1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. 1. set on 2k ohms also where the diode test symbol is
                                      2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. flashes from 1. to 800 down to 400 and back up
                                      3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. flashes from 1. to 400 down to 81 and back up
                                      4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. flashes from 1. to 800 to 870

                                      stpf1020ct measurements:

                                      1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. -1.
                                      2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. -1.
                                      3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. -1.
                                      4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. 1.

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                                      • retiredcaps
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 9271

                                        #39
                                        Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                        Originally posted by testas86
                                        k3114 measurements:

                                        com pin 1 red pin 2= 1. set on 2k ohms
                                        com pin 1 red pin 3= 1. set on 2k ohms
                                        com pin 2 red pin 3= 1. set on 2k ohms
                                        These measurements indicate that K3114 is NOT shorted. It is a good transistor. 1 means out of range on this multimeter. That means, the resistance is greater than 2000 ohms.

                                        The 1 should show up on the left hand side of the multimeter display.

                                        Many newbies seem to confuse 1.0 ohms (on the right hand side of the display) with 1 (on the left to indicate out of range). My meter says 0L to let you know it is out of range. So if you interpreted 1 (on the left) has 1.0 ohms, I can see how you thought this transistor was shorted.

                                        stpf1020ct measurements:

                                        1) red on pin 1, black on pin 2. -1.
                                        2) black on pin 1, red on pin 2. -1.
                                        3) red on pin 3, black on pin 2. -1.
                                        4) black on pin 3, red on pin 2. 1.
                                        Those don't look right to me, but let's assume they are good for now.

                                        I suggest if you still have 1 second to black that you move onto checking the CCFLs and tranformers.
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                                        • sabre504
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • May 2010
                                          • 449
                                          • United Kingdom

                                          #40
                                          Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                          Hi sorry to butt in but this board apart from maybe the pins that connect to the logic board
                                          is the same as the board they use in the acer 1916 maybe another to look at for spares or comparison

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