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  • masik
    New Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1

    #61
    Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

    I have also problem with my HP 1702 monitor, after I turn it on for the first time it will work for 30 seconds and then it will show black screen only. If I turn it off and then on again it will show picture for 2 seconds and then it will be black screen again. There is a black area on the circuit but I have no idea what to check and what I should replace.
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    • PlainBill
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2009
      • 7034
      • USA

      #62
      Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

      Set up a test. Set up the computer so it is displaying a screen that is mainly white, and disable the screen save and sleep mode. Turn off the monitor by pressing the power button. Leave this condition set up for a minimum of an hour, a day would be better. Now turn on the monitor. Does the screen have a pinkish tinge that disappears quickly? If it does, you have an aging CCFL. The only solution is to replace the CCFLs.

      PlainBill
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      • amazinguk
        Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 15
        • Macedonia (fyrom)

        #63
        Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

        I have also the same problem with my HP 1702 monitor. the same bord shown in the MASIKs picture. i have testet fuses -f801 f802 f803- -resistors--transistors--mosfet,s- they all in good condition- only not test it electrolyt capacitors look fine an flat to me. next thing i m gona open and chek the CCFLs bulb, and i will post again,
        Last edited by amazinguk; 04-16-2012, 08:53 AM.

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        • amazinguk
          Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 15
          • Macedonia (fyrom)

          #64
          Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

          amazinguk;232038]I have also the same problem with my HP 1702 monitor. the same bord shown in the MASIKs picture. i have testet fuses -f801 f802 f803- -resistors--transistors--mosfet,s- they all in good condition- only not test it electrolyt capacitors look fine an flat to me. next thing i m gona open and chek the CCFLs bulb, and i will post again




          After every rain appears a RAINBOW
          Last edited by amazinguk; 04-16-2012, 08:52 AM. Reason: some mistakes

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #65
            Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

            You can try this: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19987
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • amazinguk
              Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 15
              • Macedonia (fyrom)

              #66
              Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

              the ccfl bulbs look like this; is not any good quality picture, but i think they can show something.. so one of them is black in the end, is that mean a fault.. thnx
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              • retiredcaps
                Badcaps Legend
                • Apr 2010
                • 9271

                #67
                Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                Originally posted by amazinguk
                so one of them is black in the end, is that mean a fault.. thnx
                Possibly. Or it could be bad wiring. See budm's album at

                http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...klight%20lamp/
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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #68
                  Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                  You can plug the lamps back into the inverter board sockets, you can leave the ribbon cable from the LCD panel to the logic board out. power up the unit (pc should be hooked up to the monitor) and watch to see if all the lamps come on. yOu may may have bad wires on the end of the lamp assemblies also, but let see the result of observing the lamps on condition first since you already have the lamps out.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • selldoor
                    Slow Learner
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7870

                    #69
                    Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                    Did you test the inverter transformers t101/t102? With the power off -(for 5 minutes) and meter on 2000 ohms scale, check the resistance between pins 7 and 10 on each transformer and post the difference. If we move from the lamps to looking at the board we will need good clear pictures of both sides of your board.
                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                    • amazinguk
                      Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 15
                      • Macedonia (fyrom)

                      #70
                      Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                      i will try secondary windings of a transformer pin 7--10. like you say. 4, 5 min and i will post the results,

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                      • amazinguk
                        Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 15
                        • Macedonia (fyrom)

                        #71
                        Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                        advice from selldoor, i"ve test the inverter transformers t101 & t102 in 2kohm with multimeter and they are .460 ohm, resistance, i have some picture of them not so clear but i think u can see something, i testet the CCFLs outside of display they light for second and go off, soo they are two sokets with pair lamps, one of them is pink and the other is a litl dark they are not so lighty,, one in each is OK, do they need to be pair ok to stay on what is your advice goood people???
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                        • retiredcaps
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9271

                          #72
                          Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                          Originally posted by amazinguk
                          one of them is pink
                          Pink is a sign that the ccfls are dying. As they die, they draw more power causing the pwm inverter IC to go into protection mode and shut down all the ccfls.
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                          • amazinguk
                            Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 15
                            • Macedonia (fyrom)

                            #73
                            Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                            thnx 4 induction: i will change them and post again,

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                            • amazinguk
                              Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 15
                              • Macedonia (fyrom)

                              #74
                              Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                              i changet the 2 of 4 ccfl,s and is working perfect now, in my monitor was only the 2 ccfl bad, thats all, it was a bit headaches during soldering them but finally got a fix. i had really really nice and clear suggestions from you guys, WHAT CAN I SAY only god bless you, thnx a lot,

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #75
                                Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                                Well done - its great to hear you got it fixed.
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • alkuentrus
                                  Member
                                  • Aug 2012
                                  • 28
                                  • Portugal

                                  #76
                                  Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                                  Originally posted by olivercan
                                  thanks for all the help.the moniter is working like a charm
                                  i followed the your suggustions. i replaced the capititors and the back light.
                                  heres a picture on what i changed.
                                  Hello. I know there's is a while now... but did you replace the capacitors at both motherboards? I mean, power suply board and the other, the smaller one?

                                  Regards

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                                  • selldoor
                                    Slow Learner
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 7870

                                    #77
                                    Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                                    Originally posted by alkuentrus
                                    Hello. I know there's is a while now... but did you replace the capacitors at both motherboards? I mean, power suply board and the other, the smaller one?

                                    Regards
                                    In post 13 it shows what he replaced - do you need some help?
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                                    • alkuentrus
                                      Member
                                      • Aug 2012
                                      • 28
                                      • Portugal

                                      #78
                                      Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                                      Originally posted by alkuentrus
                                      Hello. I know there's is a while now... but did you replace the capacitors at both motherboards? I mean, power suply board and the other, the smaller one?

                                      Regards
                                      For what I see, I believe it's not from the power suply board... I was just trying to be sure, to buy the right ones ( I live in madeira island and have to import them)

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                                      • alkuentrus
                                        Member
                                        • Aug 2012
                                        • 28
                                        • Portugal

                                        #79
                                        Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                                        Originally posted by selldoor
                                        In post 13 it shows what he replaced - do you need some help?
                                        I just ordered them all for both boards

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                                        • alkuentrus
                                          Member
                                          • Aug 2012
                                          • 28
                                          • Portugal

                                          #80
                                          Re: HP L1702 goes on and off

                                          Originally posted by selldoor
                                          In post 13 it shows what he replaced - do you need some help?
                                          hello... Replaced all capacitors, but the problem is still there... Stay on for 1 second, hangs por two... looping like this... Now its time to test the side lamps, right?
                                          Last edited by alkuentrus; 08-14-2012, 02:51 PM.

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