WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #21
    Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

    They are connected together because it is setup as the bridge drive.
    Your Ohm reading does not make sense, for example: S1 -D1 (1) = 2.8K, S1-D1 (2) = 0.6k, that cannot be since D1(1) and D1(2) are connected together inside the IC, so the reading should be the same. The P-CHANELL MOSFET Drain is connected to pin5 (D1), and pin6 (D1) as you can see from the spec sheet.
    Did you lift one end of the fuse as suggested to see if the power supply will work?
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    • budm
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      • Feb 2010
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      #22
      Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

      Here is the simplified diagram.
      Attached Files
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      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
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      • Soisauss
        Member
        • Jun 2013
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        #23
        Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

        Originally posted by budm
        They are connected together because it is setup as the bridge drive.
        Your Ohm reading does not make sense, for example: S1 -D1 (1) = 2.8K, S1-D1 (2) = 0.6k, that cannot be since D1(1) and D1(2) are connected together inside the IC, so the reading should be the same. The P-CHANELL MOSFET Drain is connected to pin5 (D1), and pin6 (D1) as you can see from the spec sheet.
        Did you lift one end of the fuse as suggested to see if the power supply will work?
        I did try lifting the fuse (glass tube), but I'm going to assume I did it wrong because it didn't do anything and I didn't "lift" it completely up. I guess you meant to nudge it off the PCB correct?

        I'll be honest, that's the reading my multimeter gave me. So, either I measured it wrong or something...I'll reread it tonight and report back.

        Originally posted by budm
        Here is the simplified diagram.
        Much better diagram and makes sense.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
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          #24
          Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

          Yes, lift one end off the fuse off the board completely, so if there is the short after the fuse that causes the power supply to shutdown, the power supply then should work since we isolate the inverter section from the power supply by lifting the fuse.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Soisauss
            Member
            • Jun 2013
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            • United States

            #25
            Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

            Originally posted by budm
            Yes, lift one end off the fuse off the board completely, so if there is the short after the fuse that causes the power supply to shutdown, the power supply then should work since we isolate the inverter section from the power supply by lifting the fuse.
            Is there a particular side to lift? Also I'm going to assume to lift the part that is soldered down which "caps" in the tube. < fear of breaking it lolol.

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            • Soisauss
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              #26
              Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

              Okay, I lifted the fuse whilst having the power on using a plastic pick and it did nothing.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
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                #27
                Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                So do you still hear the ticking noise? Any indicator or voltages on the main board at all? The power supply is an always on power supply to supply 5V for the main board and 16~20V for the inverter circuits. If you still hear ticking sound, then unplug the main board from the power supply board to see if ticking stops and the 5V and 16~20v are present. You may still have something that drawing too much current, such as shorted secondary side rectifier diodes. It is the process of elimination right now. Do you know how to test rectifier diode?
                Last edited by budm; 06-25-2013, 10:08 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Soisauss
                  Member
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                  #28
                  Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                  Originally posted by budm
                  So do you still hear the ticking noise? Any indicator or voltages on the main board at all? The power supply is an always on power supply to supply 5V for the main board and 16~20V for the inverter circuits.
                  Yes, I do still hearing the clicking noise and if my hearing is correct, it sounds like its coming from the mosfets.


                  I didn't know how to measure the main board. Is the power suppose to be on or plugged in, in order to measure using DC 10 ?

                  and how do you measure the bolded part?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
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                    #29
                    Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                    I edited my last post, so try disconnecting the main board from the power supply board next. Also take the straight shot picture of the power supply board for me, the one you posted is tilted, I need to give you the test points to check.
                    Last edited by budm; 06-25-2013, 10:10 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Soisauss
                      Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 33
                      • United States

                      #30
                      Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                      Originally posted by budm
                      So do you still hear the ticking noise? Any indicator or voltages on the main board at all? The power supply is an always on power supply to supply 5V for the main board and 16~20V for the inverter circuits. If you still hear ticking sound, then unplug the main board from the power supply board to see if ticking stops and the 5V and 16~20v are present. You may still have something that drawing too much current, such as shorted secondary side rectifier diodes. It is the process of elimination right now. Do you know how to test rectifier diode?
                      That I do not.

                      I am going to take some Macro pics of connectors and will be posting them shortly.


                      Thank you a ton for aiding me thus far!

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                      • Soisauss
                        Member
                        • Jun 2013
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                        • United States

                        #31
                        Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                        Originally posted by budm
                        So do you still hear the ticking noise? Any indicator or voltages on the main board at all? The power supply is an always on power supply to supply 5V for the main board and 16~20V for the inverter circuits. If you still hear ticking sound, then unplug the main board from the power supply board to see if ticking stops and the 5V and 16~20v are present. You may still have something that drawing too much current, such as shorted secondary side rectifier diodes. It is the process of elimination right now. Do you know how to test rectifier diode?
                        How do I do this? Wouldn't removing the main board prevent me from using the power button to turn it on? I don't quite follow there....

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                        • Soisauss
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                          #32
                          Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                          Okay, I've messed with several different lighting because my digital camera is old (2005) so yea...
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                          • Soisauss
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                            #33
                            Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                            Originally posted by budm
                            Yes, lift one end off the fuse off the board completely, so if there is the short after the fuse that causes the power supply to shutdown, the power supply then should work since we isolate the inverter section from the power supply by lifting the fuse.
                            Okay, I think I'm dyslexic when reading stuff at 10 P.M given only 4 hours of sleep.

                            When you say lift, do you mean remove the whole solder joint off of the board or lift as in make sure no metal is touching the surface?
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                            • budm
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                              • Feb 2010
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                              #34
                              Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                              There are two legs on the fuse that are soldered to the copper pad on the circuit board, you need to un-solder one leg of the fuse so it will no longer attached to the copper pad.
                              I need the pictures of bottom side of the board as well.
                              My Sony camera is almost 10 years old, but it takes real good MACRO closed up pictures.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Soisauss
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                                • Jun 2013
                                • 33
                                • United States

                                #35
                                Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                                Okay, so I tested the fuse thing as suggested by Budm. I did get a steady solid green light then it switched to orange......I sense a good sign..

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                                • Soisauss
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                                  • Jun 2013
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                                  #36
                                  Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  There are two legs on the fuse that are soldered to the copper pad on the circuit board, you need to un-solder one leg of the fuse so it will no longer attached to the copper pad.
                                  I need the pictures of bottom side of the board as well.
                                  My Sony camera is almost 10 years old, but it takes real good MACRO closed up pictures.
                                  Here's the back board.

                                  Sony typically is better than olympus....lololol
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                                  • budm
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                                    • Feb 2010
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                                    #37
                                    Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                                    If you have it hook up to running PC, will it stay green? And let me guess, the power supply is not ticking any more, right?
                                    Last edited by budm; 06-26-2013, 09:25 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Soisauss
                                      Member
                                      • Jun 2013
                                      • 33
                                      • United States

                                      #38
                                      Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      If you have it hook up to running PC, will it stay green? And let me guess, the power supply is not ticking any more, right?
                                      You are correct!!! There is no more ticking noise. Let me try to hook it up to the pc.

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                                      • Soisauss
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                                        • Jun 2013
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                                        #39
                                        Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                                        YUP!!! It stayed green and I can see my wallpaper!!!

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                                        • budm
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                                          • Feb 2010
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                                          #40
                                          Re: WestingHouse 19" 19w4 LCD monitor- DAC-12M030

                                          OK, that means the problem is in the inverter circuit that we isolate by lifitng the fuse. More likely to have the shorted out MOSFET which is very common problem as the other had suggested.
                                          So you need to take good resistance reading again using the pin out of the MOSFET spec and my drawing as the guide.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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