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  • tervel12
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 42

    #1

    Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

    Hello,

    I have a Viewsonic VG2030WM LCD monitor that has no display. The backlight is on but I am unable to view anything on the screen.

    I have checked voltages across the PSU, Logic board, and the board on the screen itself.

    Everywhere I check I find 3.3v or 5v. The fuses (that I can find) on each board all seem fine and have voltage on both sides of them as well.

    Any help is greatly appreciated. I also have the service manual if that would help out.

    Thank you,

    tervel12
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  • PlainBill
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2009
    • 7034
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

    Originally posted by tervel12
    Hello,

    I have a Viewsonic VG2030WM LCD monitor that has no display. The backlight is on but I am unable to view anything on the screen.

    I have checked voltages across the PSU, Logic board, and the board on the screen itself.

    Everywhere I check I find 3.3v or 5v. The fuses (that I can find) on each board all seem fine and have voltage on both sides of them as well.

    Any help is greatly appreciated. I also have the service manual if that would help out.

    Thank you,

    tervel12
    Do the backlights turn off when you push the power button? If they do (and the power LED turns off) the logic card and power supply are probably good. I'd check the fuse on the panel card - the long board at the top of the first picture. This will be a surface mount fuse.

    PlainBill
    For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

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    • tervel12
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 42

      #3
      Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

      The lights do turn off when I press the power button. The fuse on the long board at the top tests good. It has 5v on either side of it when powered up.

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      • PlainBill
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2009
        • 7034
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

        Originally posted by tervel12
        The lights do turn off when I press the power button. The fuse on the long board at the top tests good. It has 5v on either side of it when powered up.
        Aww, crud. That means there is a problem on the panel board. There is a square IC about 4" from the left side. What is the part number of that IC? Also, a good picture of the left half of the board would be a big help.

        PlainBill
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        • tervel12
          Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 42

          #5
          Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

          There are 2 square ICs on the board. The one about 4" in is about 4mm square and is labeled: AAT1164C AG6450 0736. The second one is about 14mm square and reads: AUO-030 027-FS 4V003.

          I will try to get a real camera and take a better picture. I only have my cell camera at the moment.

          Thank you for your help and speedy replies!!

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          • PlainBill
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            • Feb 2009
            • 7034
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

            Originally posted by tervel12
            There are 2 square ICs on the board. The one about 4" in is about 4mm square and is labeled: AAT1164C AG6450 0736. The second one is about 14mm square and reads: AUO-030 027-FS 4V003.

            I will try to get a real camera and take a better picture. I only have my cell camera at the moment.

            Thank you for your help and speedy replies!!
            The AAT1164C is the one I was interested in. That provides the various voltages required for the LCD panel. I would suggest checking all semiconductors in that area.

            PlainBill
            For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

            Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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            • momaka
              master hoarder
              • May 2008
              • 12170
              • Bulgaria

              #7
              Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

              Originally posted by PlainBill
              I would suggest checking all semiconductors in that area.
              And ceramic caps as well. Any ceramic cap that measures less than 30 ohms is suspect and the circuit it's in should be checked to see if that measurement makes sense.
              A better picture of that area would also help.

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              • tervel12
                Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 42

                #8
                Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                Here are some better pictures (I hope).

                I will check around that area as you suggested and report back the results.

                Thank you.
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                • jetadm123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2169

                  #9
                  Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                  Originally posted by tervel12
                  Here are some better pictures (I hope).

                  I will check around that area as you suggested and report back the results.

                  Thank you.
                  In photo 4, also measure the voltage on all pins of voltage regulators U1 and U4.

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                  • tervel12
                    Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 42

                    #10
                    Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                    Here are all of the readings around the AAT1164C chip.

                    (Note: I measured across each of these components)

                    C277=1.98v
                    C93=4.74v
                    C92=3.3v
                    C29=0.45v
                    R11=0.45V
                    R10=4.27v
                    R70=0.0v
                    C91=0.02v
                    R23=3.74v
                    R22=3.74v
                    R61=1.04v
                    C95=0.16v
                    R62=0.16v
                    C90=0.0v
                    R71=0.0v
                    R72=0.0v
                    R66=0.0v
                    C94=1.24v

                    For U1 and U4 I measured to each leg from ground.
                    U1 Base=0.0v Collector=1.78v Emitter=3.3v
                    U4 Base=0.0v Collector=3.3v Emitter=.0v

                    (Hopefully they are labeled correctly. I measured them from left to right with the transistor at the top)

                    I have also included an enlarged picture of the area around U11 (AAT1164C).

                    Thank you.
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                    • retiredcaps
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9271

                      #11
                      Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                      Originally posted by tervel12
                      For U1 and U4 I measured to each leg from ground.
                      U1 Base=0.0v Collector=1.78v Emitter=3.3v
                      U4 Base=0.0v Collector=3.3v Emitter=.0v
                      I don't know about the chip, but U4 should be outputting 1.8V DC. U1 looks correct.

                      With power off and lcd unplugged, see if U4 is shorted by testing pins 1-2, 1-3, and 2-3. Any reading under 30 ohms suggests it may be shorted.
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                      • tervel12
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 42

                        #12
                        Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                        My mistake, I got U4 and U1 mixed up.

                        Sorry, I know that doesnt help much when wrong information is given.

                        U4 Base=0.0v Collector=1.78v Emitter=3.3v
                        U1 Base=0.0v Collector=3.3v Emitter=5.0v

                        I am not reading any shorts on U4 or U1.
                        Last edited by tervel12; 12-30-2010, 11:06 AM.

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                        • retiredcaps
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9271

                          #13
                          Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                          No worries about the mistake. I have definitely made my fair share and more on this forum.

                          Both voltage regulators look like they are working fine.
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                          • tervel12
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                            That's good to hear (about the regulators being good). So does that mean that U11 is bad possibly? Or is this just scrap?

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                            • retiredcaps
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                              • Apr 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                              Originally posted by tervel12
                              So does that mean that U11 is bad possibly?
                              My intrepretation of what PlainBill and momaka wrote in post #6 and #7 is that they wanted you to test each individual component around U11. So if you see a SMD capacitor, check for shorts. Check the resistors to their stated value.
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                              • jetadm123
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                                • Feb 2010
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                                #16
                                Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                                If I understand the application circuit for U11 correctly, try measuring the voltage on the right side of diode D10 (located to the left of U1). Use a mounting screw as your ground for your black probe. You should get something like 12-13V. If not, then power off and unplug monitor and check D10 and any cap or resistor connected to it for shorts.

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                                • tervel12
                                  Member
                                  • Dec 2010
                                  • 42

                                  #17
                                  Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                                  D10 has 5v on either side of it.

                                  I checked some other components for shorts and D60 measures 2.5ohms across pins 1 and 2 (you can see it in the top center of the LCD3.jpg picture). The two components next to it (labeled D20 and D21) both measure 700 on the 2000K scale. L44 is what is stamped on the top of this component.

                                  A little googling and that is a Schottky Barrier Diode. Could this be the problem?

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                                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                                    • Jul 2010
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                                    Mmm, that D60 sounds shorted. But it could as well be a dual diode and used with both diodes in parallel. Unsolder it from the board and measure again. If you still get 2.5 ohms then it's dead, if you get anything else it's okay.
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                                    • momaka
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                                      • May 2008
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                                      Originally posted by tervel12
                                      I checked some other components for shorts and D60 measures 2.5ohms across pins 1 and 2
                                      That means either D60 is shorted or C61 is shorted. Probably easier to remove C61, so do that first and if the short circuit is still present between pins 1 and 2 of D60, then D60 is bad. I've seen these diodes withstand quite some abuse, though, so I think C61 is more likely to be bad. Once you remove C61, check it by measuring resistance across it.

                                      As for D60 - it is indeed a Schottky Barrier Diode, consisting of 2 diodes inside in series, with pin 1 being the anode of diode 1, and pin 2 the cathode of diode 2. Pin 3 is cathode of diode 1 and anode of diode 2.

                                      While you're at it, also check C20, C21, and C60 for short circuit (by measuring resistance across them). Check D10 as well (either with diode test or by measuring resistance).
                                      Last but not least, measure the resistance between cathode of D10 and ground. Keep the negative probe of your multimeter on ground.

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                                      • tervel12
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                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 42

                                        #20
                                        Re: Viewsonic VG2030WM No Display

                                        Thank you for the tips. I will check these things when I get back to work on Monday and let you all know.

                                        Thank you for all the input and have a Happy New Year!!!

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