AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

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  • MartinConnolly
    Member
    • Feb 2022
    • 11
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

    I have found nothing on the net about this little doozie. A power supply and interface box for a studio microphone that uses a valve and condenser in the body to produce a 'warm' sound. Yeah right!
    Any way, the box just keeps blowing its fuse. Replaced the MOVs and it made no difference. There's a high voltage and low voltage side coming out of the transformer. Its all conventional design, with no switching. Disconnected the high voltage side and the fuse doesn't blow, so.......

    There's only five capacitors on the board, so I just replaced them all as it would be so cheap to do so. The box then powered up fine. I'm not sure at this stage which one was causing the problem, but I suspect the small 63v 47uF one sitting right next to four diodes that judging by the scorching on the PCB, run really hot.

    Anyway has anyone seen any similar boxes like this? There appears to be very little on the net about these, and no standards fir pinouts/voltages etc
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30937
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

    there was a trend for "valve scams" a few years back,
    there was even a guy who profiled the frequency response of a valve pre-amp and then wrote a "simulator" for the mac!!!!

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    • redwire
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2010
      • 3900
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

      Every microphone has colouration as far as freq. response and distortion.
      But you can't measure a microphone's distortion, and in condensor mics tubes beat JFETs for gain, linearity and input capacitance. But not for microphonics, cost, reliability.
      Tube condensor mics do have a place. Just do an A-B comparison with a good vocalist or instrument and you will see in general all microphones are terrible at capturing sound lol and a tube mic can sound really good. You have to have heard the difference to comment about it.

      Usually these mic/psu box combos get zapped by hot-connecting or wrongly connecting i.e. phantom power on or connecrtor flipped etc. It's usually just a pentode and few transistors in the mic.
      One AKG N_Solidtube repair showed a shorted MOV in the power supply. Another had a bad power transformer.
      It looks like it has a couple discrete voltage regs on the board.

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      • MartinConnolly
        Member
        • Feb 2022
        • 11
        • United Kingdom

        #4
        Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

        Thanks for the replies. There are some good photos there. You can see the two high voltage 22uF 450V smoothing caps wired I think in parallel, the low voltage 1000uF 63V smoothing cap and the two 63V 47uF caps which I'm not sure of their purpose. There appears to be one voltage regulator on the low voltage side attached to a heatsink with a variable resistor to set it, which then controls the high voltage side with a pair of high voltage transistors wired in parallel. The one I repaired had already had the transformer replaced and the links to the bridge rectifiers had been patched in on the underside of the PCB. I don't know what the four diodes near one of the small caps are for, but as I said, they looked scorched on my PCB.

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        • redwire
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2010
          • 3900
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

          There a HV regulator for the ECC83 tube, LV for the filaments (big heatsink).
          23VAC (~30VDC raw) and 270VAC (~380VDC raw) secondary windings. The 22uF's 450V one is at the output of the bridge rectifier, the other at HV Vreg output.

          The four glass diodes look like zeners in series, and back to back pairs. Part of the HV regulator, I can't see all the traces but it might be an AC protective clamp against overvoltage. Did this thing get wired for 120VAC and get 240VAC?
          All I can see is marking "Z3" on one diode.

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          • MartinConnolly
            Member
            • Feb 2022
            • 11
            • United Kingdom

            #6
            Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

            I hope I've worked our how to attach photos.

            Here's the PCB after being removed and the MOVs removed. You can see the patching and scorching around the diodes.
            Attached Files

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            • R_J
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jun 2012
              • 9518
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

              The 4 diodes in series are BZY97-C62 zener diodes

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              • redwire
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2010
                • 3900
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

                That would make a 250VDC shunt-regulator. If the new transformer is a bit higher in voltage, it could stress the zeners but where's the dropping resistor. Yet you have around 380VDC raw.
                I can't see what the little transistor is doing. It might be a capacitance multiplier or
                the 12AX7 needs only a few mA but still a bit wee for a HV pass transistor.

                I think a person would have to trace out and sketch part of the circuit around the cooked zener diodes. OP has a Rev.3 board and the link I gave is pics of a Rev. 4 board, maybe AKG lowered the zener current.

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                • R_J
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 9518
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

                  This will help him:
                  Attached Files

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                  • redwire
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 3900
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: AKG N-SOLIDTUBE tube condenser microphone

                    Thanks for the service manual find.
                    The four zeners make up a 250VDC shunt regulator. They are fed by a constant-current of 10mA coming from two small transistors giving 5mA each.
                    If one of them shorted it would burn up the zener diodes, so check both. Zetex ZTX757 is only rated 300V 1W. If 10V zener D4 went open that would also cause things to cook.
                    The four 62V zeners normally dissipate at most (no mic connected) 2.5W total or 0.625W each and the transistors 0.65W each so everyone runs toasty.

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