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  • OrganiK
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    • May 2019
    • 17
    • Spain

    #21
    Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

    Originally posted by petehall347
    are those caps in parallel ?
    no they are, there is one for each power rail

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    • R_J
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jun 2012
      • 9535
      • Canada

      #22
      Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

      I see two wires had spade connectors on them, I am guessing they connected to the power switch originally, What about the larger secondary wires, were they just floating around in the mixer and not connected to the bridge? too bad the customer played with it first, that's never a good sign. I wonder if this is the original transformer?

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      • OrganiK
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        • May 2019
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        #23
        Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

        Originally posted by R_J
        I see two wires had spade connectors on them, I am guessing they connected to the power switch originally, What about the larger secondary wires, were they just floating around in the mixer and not connected to the bridge? too bad the customer played with it first, that's never a good sign. I wonder if this is the original transformer?
        Non of the wires where connected, I put the connectors on them wire.

        Yer I also wondered if someone had put a different transformer in it.

        So where did you get the 43V on the secondary before? was it just a guess?

        Edit: Sorry my bad i was just being stupid and could not read the sticker properly it says 43V 3 Amps on it...

        and the caps are doble that, so could well be the right voltage. So do you think i should just try and fit a 2x 43V 150VA Transformer and cross my fingers? lol
        Last edited by OrganiK; 05-16-2019, 01:56 AM.

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        • R_J
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          • Jun 2012
          • 9535
          • Canada

          #24
          Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

          You should try and find out what the voltage should be, if that is not the original transformer, 43vac is meaningless. What is the voltage on the main caps?
          If the 43vac is correct you would have 60 vdc across the + of one capacitor and the - of the other, so about 30 volts across each capacitor to ground.
          This must be the way they are using the transformer.

          The second picture is how it is normally done, so maybe the customer broke the center tap wire completely off the transformer?
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          Last edited by R_J; 05-16-2019, 09:20 AM.

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          • OrganiK
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            • May 2019
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            #25
            Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

            Originally posted by R_J
            You should try and find out what the voltage should be, if that is not the original transformer, 43vac is meaningless. What is the voltage on the main caps?
            If the 43vac is correct you would have 60 vdc across the + of one capacitor and the - of the other, so about 30 volts across each capacitor to ground.
            This must be the way they are using the transformer.

            The second picture is how it is normally done, so maybe the customer broke the center tap wire completely off the transformer?
            The caps are rated at 80VDC so its a bit high for 30 right? but maybe since its old school they like to over engineer stuff a lot, dunno.

            If it was 43Vac on either side it would give about 56Vdc for each cap that makes more sence for the 80VDC on the caps. we also know that its a 150W x2 amp at 2omh so that would need a voltage of about 17Vac = 24.5Vp so that fits better with it being 43Vac total.

            Thanks a lot for you time and patients by the way
            Last edited by OrganiK; 05-16-2019, 11:58 AM.

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            • petehall347
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              • Jan 2015
              • 4426
              • United Kingdom

              #26
              Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

              + and - 70v for that amp .....https://music-electronics-forum.com/...ad.php?t=19136

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              • OrganiK
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                • May 2019
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                #27
                Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

                Originally posted by petehall347
                Nice one, so then i would need a transformer that has 2 secondarys with an output of about 50Vac each correct?

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                • R_J
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                  • Jun 2012
                  • 9535
                  • Canada

                  #28
                  Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

                  You don't need 2 secondaries, you need a center tapped secondary

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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

                    Originally posted by r_j
                    you don't need 2 secondaries, you need a center tapped secondary
                    +1
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                    • OrganiK
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                      #30
                      Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

                      Originally posted by R_J
                      You don't need 2 secondaries, you need a center tapped secondary
                      I know but can't i make one with a a center tap with a transformer that has 2 identical secondary windings?

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                      • budm
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                        • Feb 2010
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                        #31
                        Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

                        Yes you can, just wire them up with correct phase.
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                        • OrganiK
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                          #32
                          Re: Broken transformer on Carlsbro GRX7

                          Thanks for all the help! much appreciated

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