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  • dood
    Deputy dood
    • Mar 2004
    • 2462
    • USA

    #1

    Tubes, anyone?

    Just a few NOS tubes in this lot...











    Some are audio... some are TV.
    Ludicrous gibs!

  • kc8adu
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8832
    • U.S.A!

    #2
    Re: Tubes, anyone?

    i use tubes.
    holler if you want to get rid of them.

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    • dood
      Deputy dood
      • Mar 2004
      • 2462
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Tubes, anyone?

      Originally posted by kc8adu
      i use tubes.
      holler if you want to get rid of them.
      I'm still sorting through to see what I've got. Some are junk, I'm sure... some even have "weak" or "poor" written on them. I don't have a tester, myself, so I'll have to pull out the ones I think will sell and take them to a buddy who has a tester.

      I'll let you know if I come across anything interesting. Or are you looking more for mundane?
      Ludicrous gibs!

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      • japlytic
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2005
        • 2086
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Tubes, anyone?

        I've taken interest since seeing some valves/tubes on eBay in 2002 when I was looking for something else, and I bought my very first valve radio a year later at a swapmeet.
        In the radio I bought (there was even a circuit diagram taped inside it; a rare sighting), I successfully replaced all of the paper capacitors and that gave me confidence in restoring valve/tube equipment, and this radio runs beautifully today.
        There are some songs which remind me of glowing valve/tube heaters at night too...
        My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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        • Th3_uN1Qu3
          Believe in
          • Jul 2010
          • 6031
          • Romania

          #5
          Re: Tubes, anyone?

          I used to have a TV with so weak emission that it needed the heater cranked to the point the CRT was glowing bright yellow. Doubled as what Philips calls "Ambilight" today.

          I'm not into tube audio though. I went and auditioned some homebuilt tube amps once and indeed they sounded beautiful, but that was on $1300 speakers and a treated room so it was an unfair comparison.

          IMO the most important aspect in quality audio is the room. Second is the speakers, and only then you can start thinking about amplifiers. I have a pair of vintage bookshelf speakers that are worthy of being studio monitors when complemented with the subwoofer i built into my desk. Unfortunately, the room and their current placement makes a really big hole in the midbass. Regardless what speakers i would put in here, they would sound the same. Oh yeah and the subwoofer sounds best when i'm out in the hallway...
          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
          A working TV? How boring!

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          • dood
            Deputy dood
            • Mar 2004
            • 2462
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Tubes, anyone?

            Japlytic - As I'm sure you know... be very careful working with tube amps! 300vdc is nothing to ignore...

            Th3_uN1Qu3- That last paragraph would launch you into a debate you wish you hadn't gotten into if this were an audio forum :P
            Ludicrous gibs!

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            • kc8adu
              Super Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 8832
              • U.S.A!

              #7
              Re: Tubes, anyone?

              QFT!
              btw my favorite sport is making audiophools eat crow.my favorite was a blind test of about 10 different 12ax7's in a preamp.
              set this up at the milford hamfest.at the end 4 different guys gave totally random results other than reliably noting that the jan military industrial coiled heater and triple mica ge's had the lowest hum and background noise.
              those were from a $5 bucket lot i got at the hamfest.50 years of dirt/dust included.didnt even test them.just grabbed two and added them to the test lot. deflated a few ego's of the guys buying $400 matched quads of mullard and telefunkens!
              Originally posted by dood
              Japlytic - As I'm sure you know... be very careful working with tube amps! 300vdc is nothing to ignore...

              Th3_uN1Qu3- That last paragraph would launch you into a debate you wish you hadn't gotten into if this were an audio forum :P

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              • Topcat
                The Boss Stooge
                • Oct 2003
                • 16956
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Tubes, anyone?

                When I closed my TV shop, I gave away TONS of tubes and a big console style tube tester. Probably worth a small fortune now.....but ohh well... Nice score.
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                • midibob
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 285

                  #9
                  Re: Tubes, anyone?

                  Reading Kc8adu's comments makes me think back to an English song performed by Flanders & Swann back in the late 50's called Song of reproduction.
                  Check it out on Youtube. Guaranteed to raise a smile.

                  The prices now for ECC83's or 12AX7 as you guys across the pond would call them are ridiculous. I think most of this nonsense is brought about by the guitar amp fraternity and audiophiles with better thinking than hearing and deep pockets of course.

                  Midibob

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                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
                    Believe in
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 6031
                    • Romania

                    #10
                    Re: Tubes, anyone?

                    Originally posted by dood
                    Th3_uN1Qu3- That last paragraph would launch you into a debate you wish you hadn't gotten into if this were an audio forum :P
                    Ask any audio engineer who's been into mixing or mastering and he'll answer the same. Most mastering engineers would rather pick a great room with so-so monitors than a bad room with great monitors.
                    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                    A working TV? How boring!

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                    • Hemingray
                      KABOOM!
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 143
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Tubes, anyone?

                      I've got a fairly sized collection of small tube-type tabletop radios, as well as a couple of TV sets. Of course, with all this, I also have a fair amount of extra tubes hangin around.

                      If you get to sorting through your collection of tubes there, post some tube types? I may be able to use a few extras that I don't already have.

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                      • Toasty
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 4171

                        #12
                        Re: Tubes, anyone?

                        I've a box full too.

                        Some numbers {just the ones in boxes} - Text file attached too.

                        2AV2
                        2GK5
                        3DB3/3CY3
                        3AT2B
                        3HA5
                        3A3B
                        3DC3
                        3GK5
                        3AT2
                        4EJ7/LF184
                        4EH7
                        4BZ6
                        5U4GB
                        5GH8A
                        6CG3/6CE3/6CD3
                        6JE6C/6LQ6
                        6Z10/6J10
                        6FQ7/6CG7
                        6GH8A
                        6HV5A
                        6JC6A
                        6BA11
                        6AQ5A
                        6AN8A
                        6JU8A
                        6DQ6B
                        6CB6A
                        6JS6C
                        6JZ8
                        6BQ5
                        6CW4
                        6BA6
                        6LF6
                        6LT8
                        6JD6
                        6CM3
                        6KT8
                        6HA5
                        6LX6
                        6JA5
                        6LB6
                        6LE8
                        6ME8
                        6LF8
                        6MN8
                        6GW8
                        8CG7/8FQ7
                        8AR11
                        8BQ11
                        8BM11
                        8AC10
                        8CW5
                        8KA8
                        8KR8
                        10CW5/LL86
                        10JT8
                        11BT11
                        12DW4A
                        12JF5
                        17BF11
                        17BE3
                        17CT3
                        20AQ3/LY88
                        21GY5
                        21LU8
                        22KM6
                        24LQ6/24JE6C
                        25CG3
                        30KD6
                        31LQ6
                        31LZ6
                        33GY7A
                        35LR6
                        36KD6/40KD6
                        38HE7
                        6146B/8298A
                        6146
                        6661/6BH6
                        6679
                        7027A
                        7056
                        7058
                        7059
                        7060
                        7167
                        7984
                        8042
                        8106
                        2E26
                        CK6663/6AL5
                        GHU8/ELL80

                        Also, there are about 40 or so loose ones.

                        I also have:

                        Mercury Mutual Conductance Tube Tester Model 2000, with instruction, schematic, and tube charts with update sheets. Attache style case with removable lid.

                        RCA Picture tube tester/renewer - CRIII WT-333B

                        RCA 19" Color Test Jig 10J106B with a pile of RCA & Telematic adapters

                        Whew! No wonder I can't move around here sometimes...

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                        • Hemingray
                          KABOOM!
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 143
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Tubes, anyone?

                          Lots of TV tubes in that list.

                          All the ones with oddball numbers (not beginning with 6/12) were used in "hot chassis" TV sets with series wired filaments. Anything to add the total filament voltage upto 120

                          6LE8 can be used to make a very functional AM transmitter (Look around the Antique Radio Forums for info)

                          33GY7 is a common tube in zillions of portable B&W sets of the late 60s and early 70s.

                          6GH8 was common in early color TVs, and was a major headache to many repairmen of the time, as some would work in one position of the set, but not another, and vice versa.

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                          • kc8adu
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 8832
                            • U.S.A!

                            #14
                            Re: Tubes, anyone?

                            i use 6js6 in my ft-101e.
                            and i remember buying 6gh8 by the hundreds.lots of bad ones in those old color sets.

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                            • smason
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 1652
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: Tubes, anyone?

                              I thought the 101 used 6L6es? Man your pics bring back memories, but I don't miss tubes.
                              I could use a couple 807s but the cold variety
                              36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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                              • Hemingray
                                KABOOM!
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 143
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Tubes, anyone?

                                And not a single AA5 tube of any sort in that list! Surely there's at least 30 of those hangin round those boxes (50C5/50L6, 12BE6/12SA7, 35W4/35Z5, 12BA6/12SK7, 12AV6/12AT6/12SQ7)

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                                • CWB
                                  Member
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 34

                                  #17
                                  Re: Tubes, anyone?

                                  "6GH8 was common in early color TVs, and was a major headache to many repairmen of the time, as some would work in one position of the set, but not another, and vice versa."

                                  asides from the differences in inter-element capacitance , gain , miller capacitance (etc) between runs and manufacturers , one problem was the cathode sleeve to surface oxide boundary layer .
                                  for some reason this would tend to mess up the operational parameters of the circuit .
                                  RCA did extensive research into this area and had tight quality control .
                                  this came from a guy that ran a shop and his brother was an engineer for RCA .

                                  i seen a lot of sets that came into the shop that had been "drug store tube seller/tester-ized" .

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                                  • Hemingray
                                    KABOOM!
                                    • Jul 2010
                                    • 143
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Tubes, anyone?

                                    If you come across any of the AA5 based tubes, shoot me a price. I can always use a few extras.

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                                    • kc8adu
                                      Super Moderator
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 8832
                                      • U.S.A!

                                      #19
                                      Re: Tubes, anyone?

                                      nope.6js6.i modded one to use 6146's a while back when i didnt have any good 6js6's on hand and will never pay more then $10 ea new for them.asking price everywhere was $50 ea at the time.milsurp 6146's are plentiful and cheap.an actual transmitting tube is a nice bonus.
                                      Originally posted by smason
                                      I thought the 101 used 6L6es? Man your pics bring back memories, but I don't miss tubes.
                                      I could use a couple 807s but the cold variety

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                                      • mstamper
                                        New Member
                                        • Mar 2010
                                        • 1

                                        #20
                                        Re: Tubes, anyone?

                                        I could use some 6an8s and 6cw4s. Are you interested in selling these? If so, how much? Thanks.

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