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  • Stevie2001
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 183
    • irland

    #1

    Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

    I have i dc power supply Qw-ms305d and i i set 2v and connected to red to the shorted part of the curcuit ibdont feel any heated components with finger i can se voltage drop and amp meter going up.

    Trying to get a android tabno power issue
  • diif
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2014
    • 6978
    • England

    #2
    Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

    How many amps is it drawing ?

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    • Stevie2001
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      • Apr 2018
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      • irland

      #3
      Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

      Originally posted by diif
      How many amps is it drawing ?
      160 just random numbers

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

        Originally posted by steve22
        160 just random numbers
        160 Amps?
        Power supply is only rated at 5A.
        https://alexnld.com/product/qw-ms305...tandard-white/
        If you use Ohm meter to check the resistance of the shorts, how many Ohms do you get?
        Last edited by budm; 04-24-2018, 04:10 PM.
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        • Stevie2001
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          • Apr 2018
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          • irland

          #5
          Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

          I set to 5v voltage and touched the red pin to the short cap.
          I say its shorted because it beeps both sides also if i touch gnd and any side of the cap it beeps also when i connect the dc power supply to the cap voltage drops and current goes upto 136.

          The first image showing which two caps.
          The second image showing me connecting dc power supply drawing current.

          00.6 Ohm.
          I took the caps out before and the both legs points on the board beeps. Tested the cap if it beeps while it was removed and it didnt
          Attached Files
          Last edited by Stevie2001; 04-24-2018, 04:46 PM.

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          • diif
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            • Feb 2014
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            #6
            Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

            There's a decimal point in there. It's 1.36A. You have the current limited, I usually inject 3A to find the short/hot component.
            You should disconnect the battery before testing/injecting voltages.
            Why not remove the capacitor and see if the short goes away?

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            • Stevie2001
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              • Apr 2018
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              • irland

              #7
              Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

              Originally posted by diif
              There's a decimal point in there. It's 1.36A. You have the current limited, I usually inject 3A to find the short/hot component.
              You should disconnect the battery before testing/injecting voltages.
              Why not remove the capacitor and see if the short goes away?
              Thanks for the reply i removed the caps before and they was fine because it didn't beep i connected the wire of multimeter to the pins on board were the caps was and it beeps so am trying to figure where the short is coming from i tried freeze spray but no sighn of heat.

              I will try set more amps i just hope am doing it right when i connect the dc power supply pin to the shorted part the current goes to 136 and board dont heat

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              • Stevie2001
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                • Apr 2018
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                • irland

                #8
                Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                Setted 3.52amp stil not heated components am i doing it wrong

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                • diif
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 6978
                  • England

                  #9
                  Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                  You're aware there's a load of components on the other side of that pcb ? It needs removing from the chassis as it's possible something that side has shorted.

                  Here's the service manual if you don't have it already.
                  Attached Files

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                  • Stevie2001
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    • irland

                    #10
                    Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                    Originally posted by diif
                    You're aware there's a load of components on the other side of that pcb ? It needs removing from the chassis as it's possible something that side has shorted.

                    Here's the service manual if you don't have it already.
                    Yes its out of the casing and the board is out only am touching it both sides no heat i can hear the dc power supply fan turning on due to the current being set to 3.xxamps and low voltage drop

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                    • Stevie2001
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                      • Apr 2018
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                      #11
                      Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                      Ok lol i got sick of it and as i was holding it while the amps was on 4 i set it to 5 and the ic next to the caps smoked is that the culprit
                      Attached Files
                      Last edited by Stevie2001; 04-24-2018, 05:46 PM.

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                      • budm
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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
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                        #12
                        Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                        The beeping mode of the meter does not mean you have shorted circuit, your meter may beep with resistance as high as 50 Ohms, try it with a bunch of low Ohms I.E. 10 Ohms, 47 Ohms resistor to see if the meter will beep or nor. Beeping mode is for testing to see if there is connection between point 'A' and point 'B'. Use Ohm mode to look for shorted circuit.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • diif
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 6978
                          • England

                          #13
                          Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                          Originally posted by Steve22
                          Ok lol i got sick of it and as i was holding it while the amps was on 4 i set it to 5 and the ic next to the caps smoked is that the culprit
                          If the magic smoke came out it's dead now. What are the markings on it ?

                          You can also measure for shorts with a meter in diode mode, put the red probe on ground and the black on the rail to check.

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                          • Stevie2001
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • irland

                            #14
                            Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                            Please check post 11 attachment is that the culprit caused no power.

                            Diff not sure what the marking was but can you tell me if that was the part causing the issue.

                            Really thank you for your generouse time.
                            Last edited by Stevie2001; 04-24-2018, 05:51 PM.

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                            • Stevie2001
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                              • Apr 2018
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                              • irland

                              #15
                              Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                              Super zoom to the blown part.
                              Its for galaxy tab 3 rev 5

                              4811
                              4011
                              9 joints to this chip
                              Wonder were i can get this from.
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by Stevie2001; 04-24-2018, 06:27 PM.

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                              • diif
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 6978
                                • England

                                #16
                                Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                                U492 is the ic audio amp.
                                I can find one in Russia. http://originalspareparts.com.ua/parts/120/2/

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                                • Stevie2001
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                                  • Apr 2018
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                                  • irland

                                  #17
                                  Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                                  Originally posted by diif
                                  U492 is the ic audio amp.
                                  I can find one in Russia. http://originalspareparts.com.ua/parts/120/2/
                                  How do u know that ic is audio.
                                  I broke the ic of the board the caps stil beeping? Maybe i should add the new ic and se if it works or should i give it another amp test to se what else smokes?

                                  This is the exact board i have
                                  https://youtu.be/0luG-xUqByY
                                  Last edited by Stevie2001; 04-24-2018, 07:24 PM.

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                                  • diif
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                                    • Feb 2014
                                    • 6978
                                    • England

                                    #18
                                    Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                                    Originally posted by Steve22
                                    How do u know that ic is audio
                                    I found reference to it on the Russian page and also here http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f258...ounds-2119234/

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                                    • Stevie2001
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                                      • Apr 2018
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                                      • irland

                                      #19
                                      Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                                      Originally posted by diif
                                      I found reference to it on the Russian page and also here http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f258...ounds-2119234/
                                      I se interesting good find.
                                      I wonder were i can find this part tge russian site i dont understand it.

                                      I want to know why the audio ic heated up causing power issue.
                                      Last edited by Stevie2001; 04-25-2018, 05:31 AM.

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                                      • diif
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2014
                                        • 6978
                                        • England

                                        #20
                                        Re: Use dc power supply to find short heated meathod?

                                        I also Googled U492 galaxy tab t210 and it's the 6th/7th link. There is a translate link.

                                        What trouble shooting brought you to inject 5V there ? Page 8-4 of the service manual has the troubleshooting steps for no power on.
                                        Last edited by diif; 04-25-2018, 06:10 AM.

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