Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

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  • joshnz
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2011
    • 969
    • New Zealand

    #1

    Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

    I got these two sla batterys from a ups that was left on and drained to 0 volts.
    I have got them to charge to around 12.3 volts but when I try to go to 13.8 they start to get very warm about 30 to 40 c at 1 amp.
    I have been charging them at 400ma and they still get warm and voltage does not seem to increase should I just give up?
    My pc
    CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
    MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
    RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
    PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
    GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850
  • domas
    News Hater
    • May 2013
    • 323
    • Denmark

    #2
    Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

    try using desulphator

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    • eccerr0r
      Solder Sloth
      • Nov 2012
      • 8701
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

      Give up.
      If you can't get the SLA battery to 2*(number of cells) OCV, likely there's a shorted cell in the pack, and no desulfater will fix that.

      I ran across a bunch of these shorted cell packs, if you can still use the pack with a lower voltage, great, but likely it's time for the trash.

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      • kc8adu
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #4
        Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

        dendrites.
        they are done.
        had 2 nearly new mk wheelchair batteries that acted like that.they were left at 0v 6 months.normally i can bring them around but they were essentially shorted.albeit high resistance shorts.

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        • joshnz
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Feb 2011
          • 969
          • New Zealand

          #5
          Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

          Ok I am going to try discharging and recharging a few times and see if that helps.

          Otherwise I can just use them for another purpose that won't try charging to 13.5 - 13.8 volts.
          My pc
          CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
          MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
          RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
          PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
          GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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          • japlytic
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2005
            • 2086
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

            As far as I know, there are no desulphators that work on SLA batteries - the only ones I've seen work on flooded lead-acid batteries.
            My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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            • eccerr0r
              Solder Sloth
              • Nov 2012
              • 8701
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

              6-cell SLA cells should easily hit 14+ volts at full charge. Remember to let the battery sit for a while (few hours) before measuring voltage, if a SLA pack won't stay above 13 volts, that pack is shorted. Likely a battery pack that has a shorted cell also will have high self-discharge and probably should head to the recycle bin.

              I was about to say discarded but please don't discard lead... Recycle it.

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              • joshnz
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Feb 2011
                • 969
                • New Zealand

                #8
                Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

                Yea 1 battery does have a shorted cell running my fingers along the side one cell on one battery gets hot. I'll see if the other has same fault.
                My pc
                CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                • eccerr0r
                  Solder Sloth
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 8701
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

                  Actually the hot cells are the ones that are still OK, cold ones tend to be the shorted ones...

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                  • ben7
                    Capaholic
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 4059
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

                    Originally posted by eccerr0r
                    Actually the hot cells are the ones that are still OK, cold ones tend to be the shorted ones...
                    Yep.

                    Also, I have heard that you can discharge a capacitor into the capacitor, in hopes that the dendrite will melt/vaporize. However, there is only a small chance that it will work, AND, it has a chance of growing back again.

                    I say just give up on them. Not worth the time, unless you want to try...
                    Muh-soggy-knee

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                    • infringer
                      Badcaps Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 244
                      • United Frickin States

                      #11
                      Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

                      yes flooded lead acid is known to be repaired with epson salt finely crushed mixed and cooked to 160° F but their is a science behind it it has to be x parts water to x parts epson salt and then it has to be recharged on a slow trickle for the battery to undergo the chemical reaction that is supposed to properly take place.

                      Anyhow I know nothing of SLA based batteries I guess it is a new interesting thing I'll have to look into dunno why but batteries have been of interest to me lately.
                      Please note: I am not responsible for any harm caused to you anything discussed is just discussion. Before you try anything discussed be sure that you have the appropriate knowledge and safety gear for the job. Like with anything education and safety are first! Do not try anything @ home without it.

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                      • eccerr0r
                        Solder Sloth
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 8701
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

                        Word from the wise, again: toss the SLA batteries that don't reach full expected voltage, unless you can deal (both charge and use) with the lower voltage...

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                        • joshnz
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 969
                          • New Zealand

                          #13
                          Re: Two sla batterys don't want to go over 12.3 volts

                          Yea I have given up on them.
                          My pc
                          CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                          MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                          RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                          PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                          GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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