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  • gilly1984
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2012
    • 751
    • UK

    #1

    Bought some cheap solder, More like chalk.

    Well, I bought some solder off ebay as i needed some badly, i tried using it yesterday and it takes ages to melt, and when it does melt it looks more like a soft chalk than molten solder. Is this my crap soldering iron or crap solder?

    My iron melts solder thats on various boards when removing badcaps and stuff.

    Here is what i bought.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2808124688...84.m1439.l2649
    Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!
  • retiredcaps
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #2
    Re: Bought some cheap solder, More like chalk.

    I can't make out the description on the packaging, so I can't tell the composition of the solder. Since you are in the UK, it is probably lead free solder. However, it is my understanding that you can buy 60/40 solder if you choose to.

    I have had positive/negative experiences with "sort by lowest price" cheap solder on ebay. The first 2 that I got were 60/40 solder and they were awesome. Then after watching the 3 eevblog part series on soldering, I went with thinner solder and 63/37. I regret that decision. It could be just the cheap ebay solder, but it is nowhere near as good as my original 60/40.

    In fact, I'm running out of the 60/40 and need to find a good replacement.

    I invested in a Hakko FX888 so I know it is not the soldering iron. I set it to 350C and have a 1.6mm and 3.2mm chisel tip.
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    • gilly1984
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jun 2012
      • 751
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Bought some cheap solder, More like chalk.

      Friend gave me some more solder, its like a dream to use compared to that ebay stuff.

      Would be more at home in a welder than using as solder.
      Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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      • PeteS in CA
        Badcaps Legend
        • Aug 2005
        • 3580
        • USA, Unsure of Planet

        #4
        Re: Bought some cheap solder, More like chalk.

        It may be lead-free, which melts at a higher temp than the non-PC stuff, and can have a duller appearance.

        My fervent wish is for the RoHS lead-banning envirocrats to find their lives dependent on medical equipment built with their lead-free PC solder!
        PeteS in CA

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        • 999999999
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Sep 2006
          • 774
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Bought some cheap solder, More like chalk.

          It's just the particular solder retiredcaps, decent 63/37 is even easier to work with than 60/40. Everyone has their own preferences for solder, especially some exotic stuff praised in audiophile circles, but I only buy Kester. Pity it tripled in price compared to a few years back, Digikey now wants FIFTY FOUR (!!!) dollars and up for a 1lb spool of # 285

          MPJA has some 44 series 1lb. 60/40 for $25. http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=19101+TL
          Last edited by 999999999; 10-21-2012, 04:27 PM.

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          • momaka
            master hoarder
            • May 2008
            • 12175
            • Bulgaria

            #6
            Re: Bought some cheap solder, More like chalk.

            Originally posted by gilly1984
            Well, I bought some solder off ebay as i needed some badly, i tried using it yesterday and it takes ages to melt, and when it does melt it looks more like a soft chalk than molten solder. Is this my crap soldering iron or crap solder?
            Probably the solder since you say your soldering iron works fine.
            That said, the solder you got is likely either lead-free or lacks a flux core (or both ).

            I would suggest to let your iron heat up very well (if not temperature regulated), otherwise set it to 320 to 350C. If the solder still looks bad when you apply it on a joint, try adding some flux (both liquid and paste are fine) to the joint prior to adding the solder.

            I have a spool of some type of lead-free solder. It's very thick and lacks a flux core. Impossible to put on joints if I don't use flux. I think it's for plumbing. Says 95/Tin, 5/Ant. wire.... I'm guessing that means 95% Tin and 5% Antimony? Anyways, with flux, it works very well and I've used it for many repairs now.

            I think flux and lots of heat is all you may need to make your solder work well... Unless the Chinese have figured a way to make solder out of chalk, that is .

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