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  • skystormfarms
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    #21
    Re: ground falt

    3 weeks

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    • Mad_Professor
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      • Feb 2011
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      #22
      Re: ground falt

      Originally posted by skystormfarms
      3 weeks
      have you tested any other outlet on the strip, or is the one that is scorched the only one with a reversed hot/neutral.

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      • skystormfarms
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        #23
        Re: ground falt

        yes

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        • Mad_Professor
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          • Feb 2011
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          #24
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          yes what? yes that you tested other outlets or yes that's the only one?

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          • skystormfarms
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            #25
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            yes that's the only one

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            • Mad_Professor
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              • Feb 2011
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              #26
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              I don't know about your PSU, if I were you I would test it on a throw away old computer. Call GE and see what they have to say about this. Obviously it's a defective power strip, if they can't do anything for ya, talk to a lawyer and prove that your PSU works fine but you could have been seriously injured or killed from the defective power strip.

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              • skystormfarms
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                • Mar 2011
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                #27
                Re: ground falt

                did that and a mobo powerd up no problem and i don't want to sue dont have the monny

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                • Mad_Professor
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                  • Feb 2011
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                  #28
                  Re: ground falt

                  one more thing how did you test to see if the hot was reversed?

                  The hot could test neutral if it's damaged, the only way is from hot to ground and neutral to ground, one will read 120 and other 0.

                  Glad that PSU works, call GE see if they will replace the strip.

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                  • skystormfarms
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                    #29
                    Re: ground falt

                    i did hot to ground and neutral to ground

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                    • Mad_Professor
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                      • Feb 2011
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                      #30
                      Re: ground falt

                      Glad I could help. Seeing those scorch marks reminds of a close call I had when I was working as electrician apprentice.
                      Last edited by Mad_Professor; 04-03-2011, 09:22 PM.

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                      • skystormfarms
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                        • Mar 2011
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                        #31
                        Re: ground falt

                        wow aclose call this is the secont time i have ben blown acros the room

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                        • delaware74b
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                          • Apr 2009
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                          #32
                          Re: ground falt

                          That breaker panel IS a liability. Zinsco/Zinsco by Sylvania lost their UL listing years ago. The panel is about 40 years old and has same problems as Federal Pacific. Breakers don't trip, known to fall out of panel, and ALUMINUM bus bars.

                          This link is no joke:
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMV1jmDn3o4

                          I've seen this in the field in both FPE and Zinsco's. If one of these breakers jams (or jammed intentionally), it will never trip.

                          As far as polarity of outlets is concerned - here's something to help you remember: Short slot is hot. Neutral is the slightly longer than the hot.
                          Stupidity should be a crime, especially for drivers. I have NO patience for them.

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                          • skystormfarms
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                            #33
                            Re: ground falt

                            Originally posted by delaware74b
                            That breaker panel IS a liability. Zinsco/Zinsco by Sylvania lost their UL listing years ago. The panel is about 40 years old and has same problems as Federal Pacific. Breakers don't trip, known to fall out of panel, and ALUMINUM bus bars.

                            This link is no joke:
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMV1jmDn3o4

                            I've seen this in the field in both FPE and Zinsco's. If one of these breakers jams (or jammed intentionally), it will never trip.

                            As far as polarity of outlets is concerned - here's something to help you remember: Short slot is hot. Neutral is the slightly longer than the hot.
                            ((())) o no not good not good at all but mine is GE witch i wold is just as good as the zincos

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                            • skystormfarms
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                              #34
                              Re: ground falt

                              oop's it is a zinco

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                              • delaware74b
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                                • Apr 2009
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                                #35
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                                skystormsfarms - GE is actually one of the better panels. As an electrician, I've installed more than I care to count. Never had a bus failure or main breaker failure. They carry a lifetime warranty on the panel and breakers, full copper bus (it's coated with a silver-colored compound). I've seen some of their older panels (over 30 years) with no problems to be found.
                                FWIW, Cutler Hammer CH-series also has the lifetime warranty but their BR-series is only 10-years. Square-D is unclear on their warranty.
                                Stupidity should be a crime, especially for drivers. I have NO patience for them.

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                                • skystormfarms
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                                  #36
                                  Re: ground falt

                                  well it was a ge product that blew me acros the room

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                                  • delaware74b
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                                    • Apr 2009
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                                    #37
                                    Re: ground falt

                                    Skystormfarms, look at the third picture in your first post. Multi-color handles in a single line is the trademark design of Zinsco. Also, the breakers are 1-inch thick with 2 handles, with or without a handle tie (two single pole breakers for 2 120-volt circuit or a 2-pole breaker for a 240 volt circuit).

                                    GE uses all black handles, 1-inch or 1/2-inch breakers. Bryant used to make breakers with colored handles that fit GE's and vice-versa but doing so voided UL listing of the panel and also voided the warranty. A GE breaker will trip faster than a Zinsco almost to the nuisance level of tripping (regardless of age).
                                    Stupidity should be a crime, especially for drivers. I have NO patience for them.

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                                    • Mad_Professor
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                                      • Feb 2011
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                                      #38
                                      Re: ground falt

                                      The "GE" I was referring to was the power strip not the load center.

                                      edit: then reading up I see he replied with a zinsco panel.
                                      Looks like they are working if they tripped but still I think you should have the panel inspected by a licensed electrician to ensure proper functionality.
                                      Last edited by Mad_Professor; 04-06-2011, 06:19 PM.

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                                      • skystormfarms
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                                        #39
                                        Re: ground falt

                                        yes but i rent and i am not even aloud to replase a switch so what do i do

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