Brymen BM867s Multimeter

[neuron]

Hi,

I want buy a DMM for Max/Min, Crest,
short-circuit detection, Volts, Amp,
Caps, >0,01 Ohm, nSiemens, etc


In Europe (they send all over the world):

http://brymen.eu/shop/bm867s/

https://brymenmeter.com/brymen-bm867s.html

https://www.welectron.com/Brymen-BM867s-Multimeter_1

http://www.eleshop.nl/brymen-bm867s.html

The Spec.:
https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...1aee6f41d8.pdf

https://www.tme.eu/en/details/bm867/...brymen/bm867s/

http://www.118volt.it/en/products/mu...brymen-bm867s/

AmProbe, ExTech, Greenlee DM-860A sell
Brymen with their stamp. So I don't buy this DMM


Your exp. in the field, please,
Your good or bad experience with this companies and with this version BM867s or the 869s version.

Regards,
Ruy

[retiredcaps]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

Lots of positive feedback, reviews, teardown photos, etc over at eevblog.com/forum on this meter and the BM869s.

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

Lots of positive feedback, reviews, teardown photos, etc over at eevblog.com/forum on this meter and the BM869s.

Thank you for your comments.

I compared with Fl$ke and the spec. the same and in some cases better.

Transient protection: 12kV (1.2/50us surge)

The only thing dif. is warranty
World: 1 year
Europe: 2 years and in one site 3 years

In Youtube ... too

1 uV we can detect shortcircuits?


"AmProbe, ExTech, Greenlee DM-860A sell
Brymen with their stamp."
I don't understand why people ... buy from this brands !!!
Instead the original !!! Brymen



Regards,
Ruy

[retiredcaps]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

"AmProbe, ExTech, Greenlee DM-860A sell
Brymen with their stamp."
I don't understand why people ... buy from this brands !!!
Instead the original !!! Brymen

People buy brand names they are familiar with. In North America, Amprobe, Extech and Greenlee all have presence and mindshare. Brymen does not. Outside of the eevblog circle/world, very few people know about Brymen. Most won't spend $250+ USD on a meter brand they never heard of.

Fluke and Agilent have major presence in North America and they usually make and design their own meters so they don't have to get an ODM/OEM.

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

...
Fluke and Agilent have major presence in North America and they usually make and design their own meters so they don't have to get an ODM/OEM.

Thank you for your comments.

But now that's not the case ... they get Brymen design and rebrand :-) :-) :-)

Do you own one of this?

1 uV we can detect shortcircuits? any experience on your side?

Best Regards,
Ruy

[retiredcaps]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

Do you own one of this?

No.

1 uV we can detect shortcircuits? any experience on your side?

There is a youtube video showing someone using a Fluke bench meter with lots of resolution narrowing down a short on a HK AVR receiver. By moving the probes around, he found the short.

So resolution can help, but I don't troubleshoot shorts that often so I don't know how successful it is.

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at7GLypcLro

I think the youtube guy is on eevblog forums.

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

Hi,

The main agent / reseller in Europe:
http://www.biall.com.pl/item,BM867s-...en,102093.html

Originally Posted by neuron View Post
Do you own one of this?

No.

You post and help so many people with BM86x ...
And any reason ... or you plan buy any model?

There is a youtube video showing someone using a Fluke bench meter with lots of resolution narrowing down a short on a HK AVR receiver. By moving the probes around, he found the short.

So resolution can help, but I don't troubleshoot shorts that often so I don't know how successful it is.

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at7GLypcLro

I think the youtube guy is on eevblog forums.

Thank you ... please send more



And your troubleshoot ... expertise ?

Best Regards,
Ruy

[retiredcaps]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

You post and help so many people with BM86x ...
And any reason ... or you plan buy any model?

Don't plan on buying one. I help because I learn when I help others. I have been watching Dave's video since #5 or #6 and know about Brymen through eevblog forums.

And your troubleshoot ... expertise ?

I fix a bunch of things to learn more about electronics. And yes, I help fix multimeters like the one here on badcaps.net

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=45936

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

Don't plan on buying one. I help because I learn when I help others.

And what DMM recommend?
And in your lab. ?

I fix a bunch of things to learn more about electronics. And yes, I help fix multimeters like the one here on badcaps.net

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=45936

Thank you for your help.
Ruy

[retiredcaps]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

And what DMM recommend?

I buy used and abused Fluke meters because they are popular in North America and as such, with patience, I can get a good deal. I try to buy "broken" Fluke meters for under $25 USD.

That is why I won't spend $250 USD for a Brymen 86x. I don't need a meter like that since the highest voltage I measure is 120VAC and up to 400VDC. If I do measure these voltages it is done, whenever possible, hands free using clips.

I always have trusted known working meter clipped to the large filter capacitor (up to 400VDC) to make sure it is discharged before proceeding. This is why ...

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=41319

I personally like the Fluke 187, but understand that other people have different requirements, budget and applications. As such, I always ask what is the meter going to be used for and what is the budget.

And in your lab. ?

I don't have one. I do repairs, believe it or not, on the kitchen floor.

[stj]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

i recommend having more than one meter.
(i have 5)

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

I personally like the Fluke 187, but understand that other people have different requirements, budget and applications. As such, I always ask what is the meter going to be used for and what is the budget.

I don't have one. I do repairs, believe it or not, on the kitchen floor.

I believe you


$250 ???
This model 159€ !!!

Fluke 187 and BM867s ... don't see much dif.
Please explain.


In Fluke manual: Lifetime Limited Warranty
But ' ..."lifetime” is defined as seven years after Fluke discontinues manufacturing the product, but the warranty period shall be at least ten years from the date of purchase ...'

i recommend having more than one meter.
(i have 5)

I don't understand ... you buy 150 € x 5 = 750
instead Ex. 2 x 159 € ?

Best Regards,
Ruy

[stj]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

no, 5 different meters!!
most expensive being about 90€
https://www.reichelt.com/gb/en/ADW/0...;SEARCH=ut-61e
(much cheaper from china)

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

no, 5 different meters!!
most expensive being about 90€
https://www.reichelt.com/gb/en/ADW/0...;SEARCH=ut-61e
(much cheaper from china)

If it's the GS version ok ... but international is 50 or 60 €

And other model chineses?



And ... no comments?
Fl$ke 187 and BM867s ... don't see much dif.
Please explain.


In Fl$ke manual: Lifetime Limited Warranty
But ' ..."lifetime” is defined as seven years after Fluke discontinues manufacturing the product, but the warranty period shall be at least ten years from the date of purchase ...'




Regards,
Ruy

[stj]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

most chinese
uni-trend 61e - converted to better than GS model
uni-trend 210e - converted to 9999 count and 1KA capable clamp!!!!
zotek zt102 (x2) - moded again.
something from BSI

all customised.

[jondoe]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

I have some VERY cheap meters, I also have a ExTech and I have a Fluke 187. The build quality of the Fluke is considerably better than the Extech, but, the Extech is a very good meter for the price point, the only thing I miss is the silicone rubber leads found on the Fluke which are worth every penny.

The Fluke I own was used in an industrial setting before it was broken through day to day abuse. It was given to me as a project and it sat in a drawer for 3 years unloved. I eventually got round to finding the fault, replacing the part (direct from Fluke) and it now works great. I even paid for it to be calibrated only for it to return with a certificate telling me it was still within specification.

[stj]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

i also have a fluke PM97

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

most chinese
uni-trend 61e - converted to better than GS model
uni-trend 210e - converted to 9999 count and 1KA capable clamp!!!!
zotek zt102 (x2) - moded again.
something from BSI

And the pdf or videos ... mod or convert ... ?



" ... silicone rubber leads found on the Fluke ... "

Brymen BM867s come with sil. rubber leads !!!



And usb or RS-232 ?

Best Regards,
Ruy

[neuron]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

And the pdf or videos ... mod or convert ... ?



" ... silicone rubber leads found on the Fluke ... "

Brymen BM867s come with sil. rubber leads !!!



And usb or RS-232 ?

Best Regards,
Ruy

no comments?
many mod an transf ... ?

Ruy

[stj]

Re: Brymen BM867s Multimeter

And the pdf or videos ... mod or convert ... ?



" ... silicone rubber leads found on the Fluke ... "

Brymen BM867s come with sil. rubber leads !!!



And usb or RS-232 ?

Best Regards,
Ruy

no vids/pdf's
all info for meter mods is at eevblog and kazus forums.