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  • audiofreak19
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    • Apr 2013
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    #1

    Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

    So I just picked this tv up and I plug it in and only one relay clicks when you press the power button. The guy said two used to click. So I check the power on the power board and the backlight and I think it was the inverter one or something like that were reading less then a volt meaning something is not sending enough power to turn the inverter on. Or the two inverters that are on the tv are bad. I don't really know where to start looking next. I visually checked out the main board and it looked ok. I checked all the fuses. And I checked all caps on the tv. What should be my next step.
  • audiofreak19
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    #2
    Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

    Also I already checked the fuse on the t con board. And it read fine. I'm thinking either the backlight inverters are bad or the main board. Cause where I measured the back light power on the power board. The harness was going to the main board. And read like .384v dc.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
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      #3
      Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

      Down load these two service manuals, I am downloading it right also.
      http://elektrotanya.com/?q=showresul...oria=&kat2=all

      Do you see any LED error codes?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • audiofreak19
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        • Apr 2013
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        #4
        Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

        I tried downloading the service manual and capped out on my daily limit. But no led error codes which leads me more towards the main board.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

          Got 5V standby from power board? It's steady?
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • audiofreak19
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            • Apr 2013
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            #6
            Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

            I actually have 3.3v standby. And 3.3v on the pwr on after I turn it on.

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            • audiofreak19
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              #7
              Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

              And it is steady at 3.3v

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              • audiofreak19
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                • Apr 2013
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                #8
                Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                All the other pins read what's marked on the board.

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                • audiofreak19
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                  • Apr 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                  If it's not getting the correct standby voltage. That would lead to somethig messed up on the power board right? Also I have no problem turning the tv on and off with the power button.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                    Service manual. I am surprised that there is no error codes at all.
                    Attached Files
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • audiofreak19
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                      • Apr 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                      That's the wrong service manual. The model is kdl52s5100. And yea the green light lights up no problem and stas solid. Only thing I could think of is main board cause in the trouble shoot error codes it doesn't have one for a main board issue.

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                      • audiofreak19
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                        • Apr 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                        So I got on another computer and looked at the service manual and it shows the standby voltage is supposed to b 3.3v

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                        • audiofreak19
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                          What does ac off det mean.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                            Oops!, I upload the wrong one (was working on w5100).
                            Attached Files
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Jonesy123
                              Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 10
                              • canada

                              #15
                              Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                              I have a kdl52s4100 been playing around with it for a while now, everything I've read and tested says its a bad main logic board, apparently for mine there is a repair service but I'm too cheap. Ill figure it out one day.
                              Last edited by Jonesy123; 03-29-2014, 09:38 PM. Reason: Misspell

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                                That circuit detect if the input AC is too low or not, at normal that AC OFF DET pin will be high, if it is low, the backlights circuit will not allow to turn on.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • audiofreak19
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 556
                                  • usa

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                                  I wanna say if I remembered correctly when I metered it the ac det didn't read anything even while the tv was on.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                                    If you look at the SCH, the incoming AC is rectified by D6502 the b+ out will bias on MOSFET Q6501, which will ground out the bias for MOSFETQ6502 so the LED inside the opto PH6501 will be off, so the photo-transistor inside the opto will also be off so the Collector voltage of the opto PH6501 will be high.
                                    So check the voltage of that circuit, make sure to use the correct ground point (the negative leg of the main filter) for the primary side of the circuit.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • audiofreak19
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Apr 2013
                                      • 556
                                      • usa

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                                      10-4. I will try it in the morning once I get off work.

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                                      • audiofreak19
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2013
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Sony kdl52s5100. No picture no sound

                                        So the ac det is reading the same voltage as the stand by voltage of 3.39v. And the back light is reading .389v

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