How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

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  • Wizard
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 2296

    #21
    Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

    And, WHY had to be rubycon MCZ series? Panasonic and Samxon have suitable specs you can use to replace the MCZ series.

    By the way, is there room for 10mm capacitors?

    Cheers, Wizard

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    • long_double
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 10

      #22
      Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

      Originally posted by Wizard
      And, WHY had to be rubycon MCZ series?
      I prefer MCZs, because they're universal and work for almost everything. If I buy a lower grade, I'd have to check every time if lower grade can be used or not.

      Originally posted by Wizard
      Panasonic and Samxon have suitable specs you can use to replace the MCZ series.
      Could you, please, provide names? I've got lost in endless comparison tables on this site

      Too small batches and too expensive. I'd alredy look for a 100 at a time, otherwise capacitors run out too quickly.

      Originally posted by stj
      yeah, pannies are just as good.
      So, are they good or not?

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      • Wizard
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 2296

        #23
        Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

        Pansonic and Samxon (from Pope which I have bought over 300 caps in 3 seperate orders) are good as long as you are buying from suppliers and cut out the ebay.

        Google the rubycon MCZ pdf data sheet and then compare this to Panasonic and Samxon. Most I see like Pansonic's FC series.

        I use Samxon GD, GC (both low ESR) and GT for long life (10,000 hours at slight expense of ESR and size (very tall!) especially if power supply is extremely crowded and closed up which generic stuff is famous for and Apple are no exception).

        The KEY info you want is ESR and ripple current (most important match or exceed by some percentage) and low ESR design, 105C.

        Info is out there on 'net.

        Cheers, Wizard

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        • kc8adu
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8832
          • U.S.A!

          #24
          Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

          those are the most obvious fakes i have seen!

          Originally posted by long_double
          It's me again. Here are the photos of the caps in question.

          Is there a FAQ on how to identify fake Rubycons?
          Does anybody know if MCZs can be grey (as on my photos) or they should always be gold-colored?

          I measured capacitance rating of these fake-MCZs and on most of them it is around 1480uF (nominal is 1800uF). But on some it is 2200 or sometimes 2400.

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          • kikkoman
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jul 2007
            • 691

            #25
            Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

            judging from the pictures, you've already seen this one... anyway, their caps are genuine, prices are good.

            http://stores.ebay.com/AudJade-compo...Q_fsubZ3471909
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            • Scenic
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              • Sep 2007
              • 2642
              • Germany

              #26
              Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

              to kikkoman:
              from what i understand, audjade is where he got those MCZ fakes from.. (post #8 & 11)

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              • Topcat
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                • Oct 2003
                • 16956
                • United States

                #27
                Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                Originally posted by long_double
                Well, I buy on eBay, because I could not find anyone in Germany, who could deliver what I want in 50 pcs batches.

                Maybe someone could suggest a good reseller?
                Umm, www.badcaps.net

                I ship to Germany all the time.
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                • sofTest
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                  • Aug 2008
                  • 361

                  #28
                  Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                  Originally posted by Scenic
                  to kikkoman:
                  from what i understand, audjade is where he got those MCZ fakes from.. (post #8 & 11)
                  No, I have to agree with kikkoman, in post 11, he just wanted an opinion on the caps from AudJade.
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                  • long_double
                    Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 10

                    #29
                    Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                    Originally posted by sofTest
                    Originally posted by kikkoman
                    from what i understand, audjade is where he got those MCZ fakes from.. (post #8 & 11)
                    No, I have to agree with kikkoman, in post 11, he just wanted an opinion on the caps from AudJade.No, I have to agree with kikkoman, in post 11, he just wanted an opinion on the caps from AudJade.
                    Yes, I just wanted an opinion on AudJade.

                    I am going to buy about 400 caps from them, so if anybody already did and can share their thoughts about the quality of a purchase, I'd really appreciate it.

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                    • Wizard
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2296

                      #30
                      Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                      Once again, restate who sold this fakes in your post #8 and who sold these "genuine caps" in post #11?

                      And again please look at buying from either here or Pope for samxon capacitors or everywhere else for Panasonic if you still have issues with obtaining or fake rubycon capacitors. BTW, both Pope and badcap.net ships Samxon capacitors everywhere. Pope is friendly authorized distributor of Samxon capacitors also is more closer to you (Hong Kong).

                      First, do a test buy of small quantity from that ebay you are inquiring about.

                      Second, photos is usually copied from another so this is reason I'm very wary of ebay.

                      Cheers, Wizard
                      Last edited by Wizard; 04-12-2010, 07:37 AM.

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                      • long_double
                        Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 10

                        #31
                        Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                        Well, I've received capacitors from http://myworld.ebay.com/audjade_chn here are the photos:
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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                          possible fakes... pics pf the bungs (bottoms wit the leads sticking out? it seems that the amount of sleeving on the vents is a bit too much...
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                          • Shodan486
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                            • Nov 2009
                            • 203

                            #33
                            Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                            Originally posted by Topcat
                            Umm, www.badcaps.net

                            I ship to Germany all the time.
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                            • severach
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                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1055
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                              I have some Rubycon MCZ purchased as a Mac G5 kit from eBay that look counterfeit. White on black with a cross vent. Included are some real Rubycon MCZ Black/Gold for comparison. The counterfeits do not have the aluminum shine that the used real ones have. The fakes cost as much as real ones so someone is making good money.
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                              • kc8adu
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                                • Nov 2003
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                                #35
                                Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                                would be nice to see the bungs too but we all know they are fakes already.
                                btw badcaps.net has that kit and the parts will be genuine!
                                Originally posted by severach
                                I have some Rubycon MCZ purchased as a Mac G5 kit from eBay that look counterfeit. White on black with a cross vent. Included are some real Rubycon MCZ Black/Gold for comparison. The counterfeits do not have the aluminum shine that the used real ones have. The fakes cost as much as real ones so someone is making good money.

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                                • severach
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                                  • Aug 2007
                                  • 1055
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                                  The bung picture was a bit too large the first time.
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                                  • RJARRRPCGP
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                                    #37
                                    Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                                    The ones with the X vent definitely look fake! O_O
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                                    • ratdude747
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                                      • Nov 2008
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                                      #38
                                      Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                                      i think we have seen those before.

                                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9890

                                      exact same fakes... same vent and fake text.

                                      i would not trust ANY of those caps, they all are suspect.
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                                      • c_hegge
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                                        #39
                                        Re: How modern Rubycon MCZs look like?

                                        I say overvolt or burn them and watch them explode!
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