Do people still overclock?

[ChaosLegionnaire]

Re: Do people still overclock?

sorry for necro-dig but i stumbled upon this thread when trying to search for a previous thread about conroe cpu's high temperatures and found that i didnt answer eccerr0r's question.

So you turn off overclocking in BIOS when you don't need it?

yes, because most of the later 775 boards like the p965, 975x, p35, x38, x48 and p45 chipset based boards from asus and gigabyte have a function to load and save bios settings either to the flash rom bios or to the internal/usb disk. so its easy to quick load your favourite oc or stock bios settings with a couple of key presses on the keyboard, so i definitely made full use of this function indeed!

[TechGeek]

Re: Do people still overclock?

Because it's a nightmare to get a Ryzen 5000 series! There's also apparently faulty batches of the Ryzen 5000 series.

Hopefully people aren't baking pizzas in the chip curing ovens again!

[eccerr0r]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I need a good deal on something... a very good deal...

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Do people still overclock?

why can't you get an upgrade from AMD?

Because it's a nightmare to get a Ryzen 5000 series! There's also apparently faulty batches of the Ryzen 5000 series.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Do people still overclock?

why can't you get an upgrade from AMD?

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I would say that the good old times of the overclocking are long gone and ended.
Today it's more for enthusiasts that can actually pay substantial amount of money for unlocked cpu and mobo.

I got a good deal for my other new system, built this year, which is Intel, in case I can't get an upgrade from AMD. I got a good deal on a Core i5 10600K.
I also got an MSI Z490 motherboard. A lot less than a video card! A video card is too expensive, FFS!

It ended up being better building an Intel rig with a Z490 motherboard than getting a video card!

[televizora]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I would say that the good old times of the overclocking are long gone and ended.
Today it's more for enthusiasts that can actually pay substantial amount of money for unlocked cpu and mobo.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Do people still overclock?

lastly, for overclocking the core 2 quads, go for it! the quads tend to fly at 3 ghz and above but past 3.2 ghz or thereabouts, the performance difference isnt noticeable but it produces a lot more heat so u will need a very beefy cooler for c2q overclocking past 3.4 ghz or so..

65nm Core 2 Quads are a pain, expect WHEAs for bus/interconnect error with the FSB at only 360-something Mhz, having to raise the FSB termination voltage to 1.35V and have sub-ambient cooling at only 3.3 Ghz core clock, especially with the Q6600s, which seem to be low-binned.

AFAIK, 65nm Core 2 Quads consume a lot of watts with OC'ed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 45nms are a lot better.

[eccerr0r]

Re: Do people still overclock?

only overclock on demand if the application im running can benefit from it.

So you turn off overclocking in BIOS when you don't need it?

Since the machine was intended to be batch server I'd want it to be always on or always off, no switching. Then again there's some limited ACPI/speedstep/OS speed control that may make up for the higher 'fast' speed...

[ChaosLegionnaire]

Re: Do people still overclock?

time for me to chime in with this. if u look at my title, its self-explanatory: hardcore overclocker. i overclock everything that can be overclocked. cpu, ram, motherboard chipset, gpu, gpu vram etc.

and yes RJARRRPCGP is right that overclocking is a fine art, especially if its getting a 24/7 stable overclock for constant use by testing with p95 large and blend, intel linpack, occt cpu test and superpi. but im similar to brethin, i only overclock on demand if the application im running can benefit from it.

laptop overclocking is a little icky due to the typical crappy cooling found on most laptops. for me, my dell latitude e6500 only kicks the fan on when the cpu temps reach 81°C and the fan cuts off when the temps drop below 60°C, otherwise it runs passive without the fan. even then when the fan kicks on, it runs at quite a slow silent speed. this is unacceptable to me so i hotwired the fan to run off the 5v 1amp high powered usb port on my laptop. the fan sounds slightly noisy running at full blast but at least i get better cooling on the laptop now! lol! hopefully, it lasts longer with the better cooling!

lastly, for overclocking the core 2 quads, go for it! the quads tend to fly at 3 ghz and above but past 3.2 ghz or thereabouts, the performance difference isnt noticeable but it produces a lot more heat so u will need a very beefy cooler for c2q overclocking past 3.4 ghz or so. i.e. in overclocking, past a certain point, the cpu needs a lot more voltage to scale just a tiny bit more in ghz so thats when u know u have reached the voltage wall or clockspeed wall silicon limit in your chip, so thats when u know to back off and just let it be. thats the best this guy has got to give.

[lti]

Re: Do people still overclock?

It won't drop until it overheats actually. If your cooling system is good it should never drop.

Note that battery policy may change this. it could put a power limit due to battery consumption...

I was already thinking that it was more FUD from the "enthusiasts." Someone screwed up their cooling, and everyone blamed Intel (the "Con Lake" thing - modern computer stuff is nutty). On the laptop, it probably is done to reduce power consumption. It is throttling in "performance" mode, but I feel like most laptops with that CPU will throttle even more.

[eccerr0r]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I hope not just because of this thread, or have you been doing all along?

[dicky96]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I decided to overclock two of my rigs

i7-2600K
i7-5820K

So far I did get the i7-5820K to run at 4.3GHz and it seemed stable but I need a better cooler so I'm waiting for some parts to turn up - aused Noctua U14S with two original cooling fans, second hand was £32. it arrived but I am missing four little mounting bolts so now I'm waiting for those lol

The i7-2600K has a cracked plastic mount at the base of the heatsink so that's getting the Hyper 212 LED cooler off the 5820K as soon as I can swap them over.

[eccerr0r]

Re: Do people still overclock?

It won't drop until it overheats actually. If your cooling system is good it should never drop.

Note that battery policy may change this. it could put a power limit due to battery consumption...

[lti]

Re: Do people still overclock?

My machines that support "Turbo Boost" seems to generally indeed drop down in clock speed when idle

The clock still drops when idle, but I've been told that it's also supposed to drop after a few minutes under load. My laptop does that unless I use the "performance" mode, and then the CPU idles at 4.1GHz and drops to 3.6GHz under load.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I have a 6700k @ 4.4

If I OC it's not to an extreme extent. Only thing I have OC'd the most is my video card. It's a 1070 ti OC'd to slightly over a 1080

[eccerr0r]

Re: Do people still overclock?

My machines that support "Turbo Boost" seems to generally indeed drop down in clock speed when idle, then again if the machine is running HLT instructions it doesn't really matter if it's running them at 4GHz or 1GHz, it's about the same either way. Most likely, especially under windows, it's probably some spyware or some antivirus keeping your machine running full throttle. Or even under Linux, the software used to check the current speed is also software and the machine will kick the speed back up to full speed to run it...

[lti]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I don't feel like overclocking is worth it for my modern stuff. My modern computers apparently don't follow Intel's Turbo Boost recommendations (I've been told that the clock is supposed to drop after a while), so I guess that technically counts as an overclock (at least to Intel).

I did get my old Athlon XP laptop to run at 115MHz FSB, but I recently discovered that 3D stuff runs better if I decrease the maximum multiplier. I'm curious about how far it will overclock in a decent motherboard.

[eccerr0r]

Re: Do people still overclock?

I was hoping for minimal cooling solutions - air only, will avoid liquid (include PC) or thermoelectric cooling... but people are still using overclocked daily driver machines here?

Mine are not (at the moment, at least)...

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Do people still overclock?

Apparently it went over your head....so nevermind.

I never got around to even trying custom liquid cooling, because stubborn me didn't think I needed it for my socket 462 Athlons. I guess I should have.