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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #81
    Re: advice on heatsinks

    Originally posted by Wizard
    Next time, state which comuter that you are using to give the examples of what you are doing with your issue. What you did only serves to confuse us.

    Can you drive farther to other locations for better computer stores? Otherwise other option is ebay if your availabity of good heatsinks is not found locally. I had to go farther to obtain some at other times till my local store finally stocked up with good ones.

    I do not like noise of fans as it drowns out quiet and detail of sound especially for hard of hearing and deaf as well as hearing people for full enjoyments.

    So we always quieten down computers and use GOOD heatsinks.
    -one Low rpm 120mm fan at back exhausting out.
    -120mm fan in PSU
    -retail intel heatsink with PWM control fan type (4 wires)
    -if case is poor on air flow, we modify it by drilling more holes so vacuum of interior pull air across hard drives.

    Wires management, this means brundling them up with zip-ties and other signal wires routed carefully away from mainboard for free air.

    That's it.

    Cheers, Wizard
    this board has no pwm control, nor does my case have a spot for a 120mm fan. hard drive doesnt get hot. fans hardwired becasue they were fulled from dead power supplies. the bix fan in my room is loud, so computer noise doesnt bother me. it isnt that loud anyway.

    i cant drive and the only store with coolers would be fry's about 60mi from here. my mom could get me there, but she would tell me to buy online.
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    • 370forlife
      Large Marge
      • Aug 2008
      • 3112
      • United States

      #82
      Re: advice on heatsinks

      If you really don't care about noise and just want airflow (if you have a spot for 92mm fans) look for some delta 92mm's on ebay, usually around 150-200cfm and can be had for about $3-5 each.

      I personally just bought 3 92mm nidec va350dc's to go in my main computer, only 110cfm, but quieter than a delta screamer. One blowing in on the back, one blowing in from the front, and one pulling through the cpu cooler, plus the 172mm 240cfm nidec ta600dc on the side.

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      • Wizard
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 2296

        #83
        Re: advice on heatsinks

        Oh sorry, I was giving my examples what I have done with my computer in this configuration. For non-PWM stuff, I resort to 5V even 6V to keep fan rpm down and extend the low quality fans life longer. Or 3 pin knob adjustable rpm modules.

        Zalman have 3 pin adjustable rpm fan modules. One twists the knob to adjust voltage to the fan in turn varies the rpm. Which is not thermal controlled stuff but this serves to do their job just fine.

        I had 6800rpm fan and this delta fan, man they are LOUD and vacuum cleaner-like whine. Drives you out of the room. Eee! Not used in stuff as they are unsuitable even governed down.

        http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...%3D80%26um%3D1

        Cheers, Wizard
        Last edited by Wizard; 07-11-2009, 01:25 PM.

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        • ratdude747
          Black Sheep
          • Nov 2008
          • 17136
          • USA

          #84
          Re: advice on heatsinks

          wizard, did you completely miss my point? id rather have better airflow than a silent machine. its not loud anyway.

          yes, i have romm for a couple 92 mm fans, but i dont want to have to rip out all the hardrwiring i did. look in the pic i posted with the front fans. the main splice is there zip tied to the blue cable. i ran out of zip ties doing that job, i would have zip tied more if i had the stuff.

          the only fans not hardwired is cpu, second fan on psu, and the one on my vid. card. the side fan has a male molex (hard drive) connector spliced to the fan, and i ran an old female connector on a 1.5ft cable with 1 ground and 5v prongs removed. that was pulled from a dead power supply. the back fan has a wire running throgh the crossbar between the psu compartment and the cd bays. nice and hidden.
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          • Per Hansson
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2005
            • 5895
            • Sweden

            #85
            Re: advice on heatsinks

            Let me throw in a vote for the Alpha PAL6035

            I've owned both versions, the first didn't have a copper insert, it was all aluminum, I tried to find mine but could not, afraid it ended up at the dump when I cleaned out my parents place before I moved a year or whatever ago

            The successor Alpha PAL8045 for Socket A was really a formidable heatsink, I've bought and installed many of those, really good products IMO
            Shame they are not big at all in the consumer aftermarket cooling anymore

            Aww, look what a google search brought up, memories memories
            Shame the pics don't work
            http://www.techspot.com/articles/coolers_roundup/
            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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            • ratdude747
              Black Sheep
              • Nov 2008
              • 17136
              • USA

              #86
              Re: advice on heatsinks

              none are on ebay
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              • Wizard
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 2296

                #87
                Re: advice on heatsinks

                Patience. One eventually turn up.

                PAL8045 is bolt on. It was specially designed for athlon boards that utilize 4 hole layout.

                PAL6035 also is made for socket 5, 7 and 370 and socket 462 or A. Because they all share same size and hook lugs. Uses 60mm x 25mm but I can use 10mm thick fan if I cut the fan struts out of dud fan and stack this homemade 10mm spacer and this 10mm thick fan.

                Cheers, Wizard

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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #88
                  Re: advice on heatsinks

                  who said i wanted one?

                  ill probably get the speeze. i know the shop owners and the robotics team im on. they also sell very good soldering tools... i got my new iron and sucker there.
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                  • Per Hansson
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 5895
                    • Sweden

                    #89
                    Re: advice on heatsinks

                    ratdude747;
                    "i need advice on finding good socket a heatsinks for use on a pIII coppermine cpu."
                    "who said i wanted one?"


                    Sorry for giving you advice then?

                    ----------------

                    Managed to fix the article, it was simply an issue with upper vs lowercase filenames in the HTML code

                    http://www.techspot.com/articles/coolers_roundup/

                    This^^
                    And this below brings back memories, these where the two first articles I wrote for Techspot I think (known as 3dspotlight back in the days)

                    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...G=S%C3%B6k&lr=
                    Last edited by Per Hansson; 07-11-2009, 04:36 PM.
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                    • Wizard
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2296

                      #90
                      Re: advice on heatsinks

                      UPDATE:

                      alpha finally have online for heatsinks. Price is good.

                      https://www.micforg.co.jp/cgi-local/...mcode=S001ZL0S

                      Cheers, Wizard

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                      • Per Hansson
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 5895
                        • Sweden

                        #91
                        Re: advice on heatsinks

                        Awsome Wizard, thanks allot for the link!
                        I did not know they still made new heatsinks, they have stuff for Socket 775 and even Nahelem 1366!

                        https://www.micforg.co.jp/cgi-local/...at_lga775.html
                        https://www.micforg.co.jp/cgi-local/...t_lga1366.html
                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #92
                          Re: advice on heatsinks

                          which one is better?
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                          • Wizard
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2296

                            #93
                            Re: advice on heatsinks

                            PAL6035

                            Which cpu are you planning to use with this? It depends on clip design due to tualatin and althlon, P3 uses different design of clip.

                            Cheers, Wizard

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                            • ratdude747
                              Black Sheep
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17136
                              • USA

                              #94
                              Re: advice on heatsinks

                              coppermine. but thier stuff is out of buget.
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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #95
                                Re: advice on heatsinks

                                wait, the 6035 is not

                                will that work?
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                                • ratdude747
                                  Black Sheep
                                  • Nov 2008
                                  • 17136
                                  • USA

                                  #96
                                  Re: advice on heatsinks

                                  and how severe is the shipping?
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                                  • ratdude747
                                    Black Sheep
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 17136
                                    • USA

                                    #97
                                    Re: advice on heatsinks

                                    how can that hs be so cheap? the next model up is for s462 only and costs 44 bucks. this one only costs
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                                    • ratdude747
                                      Black Sheep
                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 17136
                                      • USA

                                      #98
                                      Re: advice on heatsinks

                                      is anybody there?
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                                      • Per Hansson
                                        Super Moderator
                                        • Jul 2005
                                        • 5895
                                        • Sweden

                                        #99
                                        Re: advice on heatsinks

                                        Just send a mail to their address and ask? sales at alphanovatech.com

                                        This is also a good heatsink for S370;
                                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230345972630
                                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                                        • ratdude747
                                          Black Sheep
                                          • Nov 2008
                                          • 17136
                                          • USA

                                          #100
                                          Re: advice on heatsinks

                                          the ebay one uses a molex and not a fan port 3 wire... still tempting, though

                                          if i got that would sealing the gap between heatsink and fan caused by the black shims improve performance? i would use thin tape strips
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