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    #61
    Re: advice on heatsinks

    i didnt even look at that one, looks like a shitter if you ask me. that ebay page looks like a bunch of crap. no body would post such a gauldy pic like that

    if anything a stock athlon xp cooler would be better than that. so the speeze is worth a try?

    ps, 370, will you reply to my pm?
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      #62
      Re: advice on heatsinks

      also, it looks like the clip would overhang and block a ram slot
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        #63
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        I like that heatsink because it has fins all the way right down to where the die touches the heatsink. It looks like the clip would overhang because it sits right over the processor, it dosen't go over the little cam area on the socket.

        Ohhh ya, I forgot about the pm. whoops.

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          #64
          Re: advice on heatsinks

          Alpha did use cold forging method to mash copper and aluminum also form fins in one step. If you took time to look up on alpha's process, there are other few other competitors doing this process as well.

          http://www.alphanovatech.com/teguidee.html

          The ThermoEngine heatsink that 370forlife linked to ebay is not bad and good design for pulling heat to the fins shortest distrance in all directions. This is the basis Intel used on P4 retail heatsinks onwards all the way to 775 and later sockets.

          Cheers, Wizard
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            #65
            Re: advice on heatsinks

            http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1998PhDT........34K

            hmm, microforging is interesting. Basically layer on a micro layer of a metal and smash it in with a ball endmill.

            Not real forging because real forging causes the grain of the metal to interlace and become stronger, but interesting non the less.
            Last edited by 370forlife; 07-10-2009, 08:33 PM.

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              #66
              Re: advice on heatsinks

              yeah, but if the clip overhangs then i get limited to 3 ram slots. those morons at asus screwed up by putting the clip so close to th memory slot. look at the pic in the first post. if it is 1mm from a chip then thats too close for comfort. besides, no copper.
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                #67
                Re: advice on heatsinks

                Have a look at a VP6's right-most socket, how close it is to the ram. Much closer than on your asus, trust me you are fine.

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                  #68
                  Re: advice on heatsinks

                  wrong! anything with a decent thumbtab will block or touch a chip. here i have the masscool with a foxconn clip on, on a similar asus board with identical clearances:



                  see how the clip obstructs the first slot. luckily, the thumbtab can be removed so i get the slot back

                  i also took pictures of my fan arrangement:



                  see the fan on back panel and the front panel



                  see the back fan and additional fan attached to psu?

                  there is also a fan on the side panel, but you dont need a pic for that as it simply blows out.
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                    #69
                    Re: advice on heatsinks

                    dont worry 370, i orginally used the screwdriver clips myself. i only switched clips because i keep on losing my small flathead
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                      #70
                      Re: advice on heatsinks

                      Reason the hard drive is overheating is that your case fans is bypassing this hard drive's vents at the front. And not to mention the noise!

                      What u need to do is remove both fans at front. Let the air do their job. Also you need to remove that fan that pushes air into PSU. Not needed. Let one case fan extract the air out of case at back and PSU's fan as well. This will make case slightly warmer but more controllable and less noise.

                      Here do get hot as well but my PC works fine with this method.

                      Cheers, Wizard

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                        #71
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                        wizard, wrong computer, the hd problem was on another another computer. You're thinking of the compaq. this is a different one. besides, there is negative pressure anyway (including the two on psu, 3 in back, 2 in front. and lots of vents by hd.) all bay covers have vents. hd gets kinda warm, but not hot. besides, its going to be a royal pain in the ass to remove those fans, they're hardwired. that "p3 running HOT" thread was another computer that also ran a p3. i might have mentioned a couple times, but to say i would like to be able to afford 2 fans so the other benefits as well. get your computers straight!
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                          #72
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                          Thats the problem with the clip and heatsink?

                          Heres what you do.

                          Put it on the other side! The one I posted from ebay can be put on either side, it sits right on top of the processor, where as that heatsink you have has the little part that goes on top of the cam.

                          Or you can take the fan off, flip the clip around the other way, and walla!

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                            #73
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                            and for the one on the ps, thats because i dont like how the psu fan always runs so slow. i dont care about noise. it could almost have a jet engine and i wouldnt care.
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                              #74
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                              i am not buying that fan on ebay. i have a bad feeling about it. that one pic with all that photoshopped shit (p3 logo, amd logo, etc.) makes me think its a scam. id probably get a Pentium 1 cooler instead.'

                              will you answer the freaking question" will the speeze fan work or not?"
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                                #75
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                                Might not work as well as a nice cooler, but it will probalby work ok.

                                Just beware that the clip on those style heatsinks are extremely tight, and impossible to loosen (hardened spring steel clip)

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                                  #76
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                                  i thought it was a nice cooler. i might buy one to see and if it works than ill by another. the clip should work. ive undone those kind before. also, is there a way to mound an am2 cooler on one of these?
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                                    #77
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                                    and why are you so pushy on the ebay one?
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                                      #78
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                                      its cheap and its decent

                                      anyways, if the spooge heatsink has a smooth bottom (ummm, not like that,) then give it a whirl, little expensive though.

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                                        #79
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                                        not when you add shipping
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                                          #80
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                                          Next time, state which comuter that you are using to give the examples of what you are doing with your issue. What you did only serves to confuse us.

                                          Can you drive farther to other locations for better computer stores? Otherwise other option is ebay if your availabity of good heatsinks is not found locally. I had to go farther to obtain some at other times till my local store finally stocked up with good ones.

                                          I do not like noise of fans as it drowns out quiet and detail of sound especially for hard of hearing and deaf as well as hearing people for full enjoyments.

                                          So we always quieten down computers and use GOOD heatsinks.
                                          -one Low rpm 120mm fan at back exhausting out.
                                          -120mm fan in PSU
                                          -retail intel heatsink with PWM control fan type (4 wires)
                                          -if case is poor on air flow, we modify it by drilling more holes so vacuum of interior pull air across hard drives.

                                          Wires management, this means brundling them up with zip-ties and other signal wires routed carefully away from mainboard for free air.

                                          That's it.

                                          Cheers, Wizard

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