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  • kc8adu
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8832
    • U.S.A!

    #1

    all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

    salvagnini sbc from a metal forming machine.
    fire!
    used the good parts from this one to fix another that was trashed the same way but did not flame out.
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  • 370forlife
    Large Marge
    • Aug 2008
    • 3112
    • United States

    #2
    Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

    What happened to the fan on that, did it melt off or did you take it off?

    Must have gotten hot to vent those Panasonics.

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    • NxB
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2009
      • 1595

      #3
      Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

      Yay! Burned stuff!
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      • Toasty
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2007
        • 4171

        #4
        Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

        >>What happened to the fan on that, did it melt off or did you take it off?<<

        That fan is a little "caged" style that just screws into heatsink. Notice the shiny screw thread spots, ala P1 style.

        >>Must have gotten hot to vent those Panasonics.<<

        I draw your attention to the incinerated corner of the board to the left of the Panny's...


        Toast(ed)
        veritas odium parit

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        • kc8adu
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8832
          • U.S.A!

          #5
          Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

          the fan was off in a bag.it crumbled when i inspected it.its leads crumbled too.took it awhile to bake like this.cpu,a k6-2 450 was toast on both boards.
          surprised it ran as long as it did!

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          • Topcat
            The Boss Stooge
            • Oct 2003
            • 16956
            • United States

            #6
            Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

            Had this on an HP/asus board with an athlon64 dual core. CPU and RAM was fried, regulation section of the board was soot (behind parallel port), rubycon caps vented, FET's were soot, CPU fan was clogged/rendered inoperable with dust bunnies... I'd hate to see what the rest of their home looked like considering how nasty the inside of their computer was.
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            • ratdude747
              Black Sheep
              • Nov 2008
              • 17136
              • USA

              #7
              Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

              mmm... char-grilled silicon with a hint of baked solder

              :
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              • Wizard
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 2296

                #8
                Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                Totally stupid design, no fail safe at all on that production board to cut out on overtemp!? With all the expense spared, the maker of this board should have been have over-temp monitor circuit built in to protect investment. Plus K6-2 is hot CPU to boot. With this heatsink, sufficient for DX2 66 but that's barely capable for cooling a 11W CPU (Pentium 100) but with K6-2 450 that requires different heatsink (this is about 30W if K6-2 is a 2.4V version, otherwise 19W for 2.2V).

                Head shaking at this...sigh.

                Cheers, Wizard

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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                  yup- cheap heatsinks= short cpu life
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                  • kc8adu
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 8832
                    • U.S.A!

                    #10
                    Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                    to add further insult the burnt board went 6 months ago.the one i fixed was the replacement.i think the customer said it was about $5k.
                    vaseline not included.

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                    • KeriJane
                      Mac Enthusiast
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 681
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                      Wow, that's one expensive smoke machine.

                      I wonder how many other dedicated controllers out there are this badly done and expensive?

                      There's just gotta be zillions of them.

                      MRI machines?

                      CNC? machines?

                      Those things that put messages above freeways?

                      Those other things that take your picture going through a red light?

                      Elevators?

                      Car Washes?

                      All manner of factory equipment? Maybe the whole Factory?

                      The thing that controls skyscraper lights so that funny messages can be spelled out in letters 30 stories high? Or maybe the heat?

                      The Post Office?


                      Eeps! The stupid pooters are everywhere!

                      Look out for the Terminators,
                      Keri
                      The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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                      • bgavin
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1355

                        #12
                        Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                        MRI machines with bad caps... that is about as scary as seeing the BSOD on the airport terminals...

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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                          Originally posted by bgavin
                          MRI machines with bad caps... that is about as scary as seeing the BSOD on the airport terminals...
                          it might tell you that you have fuhjyyu cancer

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                          • Per Hansson
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 5895
                            • Sweden

                            #14
                            Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                            kc8adu; wow, that's some impressive track record!

                            Perhaps add a Papst 120mm AC aluminium fan in the chassi somewhere so it can fail again without problems

                            Oh, and I'm glad to say we sold the only Salvagnini LASER machine we had at work, hehehe
                            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                            • kc8adu
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8832
                              • U.S.A!

                              #15
                              Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                              it had one.it was locked up and burned too.230v fans are not easy to get locally.
                              got one at midwest surplus in fairborn oh.
                              nice place which has saved the day many times for my industrial customers.

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                              • NxB
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1595

                                #16
                                Re: all fans failed.this is what happened.salvagnini sbc

                                Well... I've never seen a PLC with bad caps.

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