Great information! Thank you Sam.
Wire runs will not be more than 4ft.
Most likely, less than...
There will be NO steam or water near this set up. But there will be GFCI breakers/terminals used. If possible
If you would, from this ED,,, can you please provide an example of a limiter switch that can control the system, switching from 3 to 1 element(s)? I don't know what that is...
I appreciate your help (and warnings) with all this....
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I got this from the company. It's an attachment. It was included in post 45......
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Good Morning! Thanks Sam.
So what I discovered is that there is NO neutral to the heating elements. Each element leg (3 of them) gets 120v for a total of of 240 +/- in each of the 3. I was confused and then talked with a electrician at work who cleared things up for me. That N on the board is for the 120v light circuit only, on a separate line, and that is it.
My controller is the 1202-1-18 model/design. See manual.
Thru the controller, three element legs will get its 120v from the T1 connection, 3 will get 120v from the T2 connection.
I will...Last edited by JayPoorJay; 01-26-2024, 05:49 AM.Leave a comment:
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Is it possible that this entire controller can function on one neutral wire for the heaters AND the light? I just don't understand where the neutral wire back from the elements wires in...or even comes from... headaches......
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The new and improved wiring diagram,,,
Thanks to the guys at Sauna360...
Pg 9. The 1202-1-18 unit...
Looks like the "contactor" (I was wondering about that) is built into the controller itself (unless I'm mistaken) which is good...
I am a little confused about how and which wires will be run to the individual elements. I think I understand the load connections,,, but am uncertain about the the line back. Anyways, I'm a ways away from that stage.
My elements are 2100watts each 😬...Leave a comment:
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Maybe I just need to spend the $100 dollars and get the one that is original to the temperature/sauna control panel that I have coming? At the same time I cant imagine that a thermostat would react to very small changes in temp regularly to the point that it would cook itself or wear itself out...? More research.
The thing i like most about doing alllllll kinds of DIY projects is the learning curve and all of the things that need to be figured out. The availability of so many devices (amazon) is pretty amazing, I must say. As much, the internet and all of the information that is at...Leave a comment:
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I plan on one of these... But thanks. I'm just waiting for them to restock...
[url]https://m.vevor.com/sauna-heater-stove-c_10155/vevor-sauna-heater-9kw-220v-electric-sauna-stove-steam-bath-sauna-heater-with-built-in-controls-3h-timer-and-adjustable-temp-for-max-317-459-cubic-feet-home-hotel-spa-shower-use-p_010676999828#goodsDetail[/url]
Do you have a specific suggestion for the/a thermostat? That would help. I don't understand them very well. Are they just on off with 120v feed, depending on temperature?https://I plan on one of these... Bu... to restock......Leave a comment:
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"All"? How much air "pressure" do you think we are talking here? So, the reason for this isn't only the pre-heat, it's also the recovery too, after opening the door... I hear you though......Leave a comment:
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Could this be my guy?
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Can you help me decipher "limit control leads in heater junction box"? Circled in orange in the attached image....
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Looks like the thermostat (capillary bulb style) is necessary and controls the on off. The guy who supplied the ED gave me a part number for the thermostat BUT the thing is like 100bucks...! I'll go dig that number up (they are readily available) and it's like companies KNOW that people are using them for saunas so I'm wondering if there is a capillary style thermostat (or even a digital one) that can be used in its place...? Any ideas?
(edit) The numbers...
Timer 3140-505
Tstat 3155-623
Light 3160-118
Knob timer 2140-578...Leave a comment:
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This is all the company that I contacted had
This is challenging, lol...Leave a comment:
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Good morning Guys...
An ongoing issue with saunas no matter how one heats them is heat loss when a door opens. No matter what kind of heat source. I understand that unlike a space without lightly pressurized air, heat loss will be a bit quicker. A lot depends on materials in the room retaining heat, residual heat. The wood will do some, the Vevor heater with 80lbs of stone INSIDE of the space will do lots.
Who said anything about propane or gas???
I have this controller and want to see if I can get it working on the enclosed element furnace brick fan stack....Leave a comment:
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I'm looking at this on eBay...
I think I'm going to give it a shot...
Keep exploring the idea(s)...
Anyways,,,
Forced air for fast heat up with a unit pushing in air on the outside of the space supplemented with a purchased unit (probably used) with rocks and such on the inside to keep the temps up once reached is the idea. We shall see.
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Understood... Thank you 🙂...Leave a comment:
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Please tell me your ideas about heat... What do I need to know or understand??? That's why I came here with questions....Leave a comment:
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Sam... HellO. You wrote me a super long and well written message that I somehow missed completely... I have to go back and will follow up the best I can. Then,,,
Diff... I'll just go along with you, and try and answer...
Point blank. Vents and ventilation in saunas is vital. Not easy to get right, and can add significantly or take away from the saunas function. There is a science to it. Point is, venting saunas is well documented. Look it up. And no, the heat doesn't just escape.
Second, the reason that saunas have 2 and 3 benches at different levels/heights...Last edited by JayPoorJay; 01-17-2024, 09:46 AM.Leave a comment:
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Saunas are built vented in 2 spots.
I admit, it all sounds pretty crazy,,, and sketchy even but as I've said and will say again I will not move forward, from either planning OR in the physical IF things don't add up and doesn't seem to be able to be done safely. How many ways can I express that?...Last edited by JayPoorJay; 01-16-2024, 05:19 AM.Leave a comment:
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Thank you Tom. All great information...
Safety and keeping this thing that way is what all of this hinges on.
I will not go forward (my wife would NEVER allow it) if its is not tight and safe.
Sam, thanks so so much for all of your guidance and ideas..., Ill add a couple of photos (not to scale and drawn quickly) to give a better sense of what I am thinking at this point...
Nothing will be directly above the elements except the next element(s) all encased in fire/furnace brick. They will only be on when the fan is on. There will NEVER be water near any part...Leave a comment:
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Sam_Sam_Sam! Maaaan,,,, I cant tell you how appreciative I am for how willing you are to walk me thru alllllll of these ideas and information. Responding, I almost feel CHEAP or like I'm cop-ing out because my response cant get close in comparison to the amount of effort it must have taken you to put all of these ideas together.
Based on what you all have said, I'm going to shift a litte bit...
Of course safety is the chief concern which out weighs any other consideration in moving forward at every step in this idea. I want to state that clearly and I am SUPER grateful...Last edited by JayPoorJay; 01-12-2024, 09:04 AM.Leave a comment:
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