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    PC Ultra Low Framerate

    Hey guys, I have a Windows 8.1 PC that I built and it's about 2 years old. For normal browsing and file management it's lightning fast, But as soon as I get into games I hit a brick wall. Most of that games I play are slow because my graphics card is a piece and I know it. The main issue I'm having is with the game Resonant Rise 3. I have a base texture pack installed and average about 60fps, but as soon as I add on the texture pack patch for the mods, my screen looks more like a slideshow. Even my desktop and moving windows is ultra slow. The thing that is puzzling me is that none of my components appear to be maxed out. My processor is around 30% while my graphics card is at around 20%. I still have 1.2 gigs of RAM free and my disk activity light only flashes once and a while.

    So I ended up downloading a benchmarking program to test my system and I posted the results for each category. I know my graphics scores are trash but that shouldn't be a problem since Resonant Rise has the same graphics as Minecraft. I'm thinking that maybe some sort of data bus is being saturated and not showing up on the system monitors? But that's just a wild guess. Also all of my temperatures are perfectly fine and I have 9 fans in my case.

    So any guesses at what might be causing these issues will be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone is wanting more specific specs for my hardware than what is attached, just ask.

    Thanks
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    #2
    Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

    so what is your video card make/model for a start?

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      #3
      Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

      Originally posted by stj View Post
      so what is your video card make/model for a start?
      It's a NVIDIA GeForce GT 630.
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        #4
        Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

        The GT 630 is an entry level card. That would be the first suspect to low framerates. I would install MSI Afterburner and check what the GPU usage is while running the extra textures. Have you already updated the driver?

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          Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

          Originally posted by Pentium4 View Post
          The GT 630 is an entry level card. That would be the first suspect to low framerates. I would install MSI Afterburner and check what the GPU usage is while running the extra textures. Have you already updated the driver?
          I know it is but I really don't think that is the problem because as stated in my first post, MSI Afterburner only shows 20% GPU utilization while it's lagging. This is also with the drivers updated.

          Another reason I don't think that it's the graphics card is, that on my screen, I have the standard textures installed, everything looks fine. But when I add the textures for the mods, it doesn't work. This is weird though because the only blocks that are actually on the screen are the vanilla blocks that I already have the textures for. So, the game shouldn't even be rendering any of the blocks from the texture patch. Or am I completely wrong? Do games do something like pre-load all of the textures in the pack or something?

          And about my crappy card, I know it sucks because when I play Skyrim I get low fps but that is because my gpu is always at 100%, but when playing this, it never maxes out.

          So is there some sort of data bus that is getting saturated?
          canadaboy25

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            #6
            Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

            How much memory have you got on your graphics card, how big is the texture pack ?
            What motherboard/CPU do you have ?

            Is the texture pack known quality ? Have you friends that have installed it and know it works ?
            Last edited by diif; 08-09-2015, 11:32 AM.

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              Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

              Is it an official texture pack? sometimes some game engines have issues with large texture packs. It all depends on how the game is built

              maybe you can have the texture pack and take the texture quality down in the settings. Does your program show how much video memory is being taken up? I have a 730M but 4GB of vram so i've never really had problems that aren't simple GPU power related
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                Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                Originally posted by diif View Post
                How much memory have you got on your graphics card, how big is the texture pack ?
                What motherboard/CPU do you have ?
                I'm pretty sure it has 2 gigs of memory. The texture pack is 245 megs. My motherboard is an Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 and my processor is an AMD FX-8350.

                Originally posted by diif View Post
                Is the texture pack known quality ? Have you friends that have installed it and know it works ?
                Originally posted by Uranium-235 View Post
                Is it an official texture pack? sometimes some game engines have issues with large texture packs. It all depends on how the game is built
                Yes it's an official texture pack. The texture pack is the most popular texture pack for the game and 99% of people I talked to use it so I'm pretty sure it isn't the pack itself. I've seen people using the 128x version which is much heavier than the 64x version that I'm trying to run so I know that it is possible for to work.

                Originally posted by Uranium-235 View Post
                maybe you can have the texture pack and take the texture quality down in the settings.
                I changed a setting and now I'm getting about 10fps which still isn't playable but it is an improvement.

                Originally posted by Uranium-235 View Post
                Does your program show how much video memory is being taken up? I have a 730M but 4GB of vram so i've never really had problems that aren't simple GPU power related
                Yes it does. I'm pretty sure that the card has 2 gigs of memory and MSI Afterburner was showing 1800 megs being used. Another thing I noticed on the software was the scale for the Pagefile usage was stuck at the top of the scale at 8000 megs. I believe this has something to do with my memory? Could that be a problem?
                canadaboy25

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                  Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                  Minecraft prefers to run on the integrated GPU. Make sure its running on the nvidia card
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                    Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                    Originally posted by Uranium-235 View Post
                    Minecraft prefers to run on the integrated GPU. Make sure its running on the nvidia card
                    How can I tell if it is?
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                      #11
                      Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                      A GTS 450 and a Nvidia Tesla k40 tend to make an exceptional gaming rig. the k40 is a DEFCON special!
                      Last edited by goontron; 08-09-2015, 09:41 PM.
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                        Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                        Originally posted by goontron View Post
                        A GTS 450 and a Nvidia Tesla k40 tend to make an exceptional gaming rig k40 is a DEFCON special!
                        Haha I don't even know what the last one is.
                        canadaboy25

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                          #13
                          Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                          This may seem completely wrong but try the 128x textures and see how that goes, or if there is such a thing as 32x you could try that to. Don't remember where i have read it but i have a vague memory of people having trouble with certain cards in combination with certain texture resolutions.

                          There is also tons of settings you can poke around at in java. One that comes to mind is the one that limits the RAM usage of the java engine.

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                            #14
                            Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                            I tried multiple different packs and none worked.

                            I think I may be out of memory because my pagefile is right full and now windows is giving me out of memory messages even though I have 2 gigs of memory free in the task manager.
                            canadaboy25

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                              #15
                              Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                              Have you changed any of the paging file settings under the virtual memory tab ?

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                                #16
                                Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                                I haven't touched the settings since I got the PC so all the settings were set by the install of Windows. After I started getting these memory messages I went into the settings and completely disabled the pagefile which probably wasn't the best but it seems to have helped a little. I am still getting the memory messages.
                                canadaboy25

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                                  #17
                                  Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                                  I wouldn't disable it. How much system memory do you have ?

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                                    #18
                                    Re: PC Ultra Low Framerate

                                    I have one 8 gig stick installed.
                                    canadaboy25

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