more win10 stuff

[kaboom]

Re: more win10 stuff

Here is a list of some "phone home" domains from a new Windows 10 system:

Keep those P3-class systems for filtering! I know from setting up a certain PITA system that "certain" entries in the hosts file are *ignored.*

When does the M$ arrogance end???

:FDISK:

[goontron]

Re: more win10 stuff

Here is a list of some "phone home" domains from a new Windows 10 system:

vortex.data.microsoft.com
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
choice.microsoft.com
choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
df.telemetry.microsoft.com
reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
telemetry.microsoft.com
watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
telemetry.appex.bing.net
telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
survey.watson.microsoft.com
watson.live.com
watson.microsoft.com
statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
compatexchange.cloudapp.net
cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
a-0001.a-msedge.net
statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
corp.sts.microsoft.com
statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
pre.footprintpredict.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
feedback.windows.com
feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
feedback.search.microsoft.com
rad.msn.com
preview.msn.com
ad.doubleclick.net
ads.msn.com
ads1.msads.net
ads1.msn.com
a.ads1.msn.com
a.ads2.msn.com
adnexus.net
adnxs.com
aidps.atdmt.com
apps.skype.com
az361816.vo.msecnd.net
az512334.vo.msecnd.net
a.rad.msn.com
a.ads2.msads.net
ac3.msn.com
aka-cdn-ns.adtech.de
b.rad.msn.com
b.ads2.msads.net
b.ads1.msn.com
bs.serving-sys.com
c.msn.com
cdn.atdmt.com
cds26.ams9.msecn.net
c.atdmt.com
db3aqu.atdmt.com
ec.atdmt.com
flex.msn.com
g.msn.com
h2.msn.com
h1.msn.com
live.rads.msn.com
msntest.serving-sys.com
m.adnxs.com
m.hotmail.com
preview.msn.com
pricelist.skype.com
rad.msn.com
rad.live.com
secure.flashtalking.com
static.2mdn.net
s.gateway.messenger.live.com
secure.adnxs.com
sO.2mdn.net
ui.skype.com
www.msftncsi.com
msftncsi.com
view.atdmt.com

[diif]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

%appdata% is revealed when system files are set to show.

[stj]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

it really is too bad that "fuckmicrosoft.com" is no more, because it had a list of all this stuff!

[stj]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

no, it was hundreds upon hundreds of html files in a cache folder with a % or something on the front.
totally invisible without Linux.
it was NOT using the usual "hidden" or "system" flags.

[diif]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

The standard dir command won't show hidden files, folders or drives if they are set to hidden.

Sounds like the index.dat file you are referring to.

[stj]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

then $ is NOT it, because what i'm talking about was hidden even from dos.
it was REALLY hidden.

and one of the things it was used for was to create a cache of all pages visited by IE
i discovered this years ago after wondering where over 300meg of my HD space had gone!

[diif]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

Its $ and it works on Win7 and 8.

Select "show hidden files folder or drives" reveals it. No need for Linux.

[stj]

Re: Win7 updates for upgrading to Win10

i wonder if it's creating hidden stuff.

i dont know about 7, but on xp and 98' you could create invisible folders & files simply by starting the filename with a % or $ or something.

the only way to see them was by booting Linux.

[Per Hansson]

Re: more win10 stuff

Steve Gibson ran a Win10 podcast in SecurityNow last week, worth watching.
It's episode 519 and the Win10 talk starts at 1:02:00 if you want to skip forward to it.

https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/e...utostart=false

https://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

[SteveNielsen]

Re: more win10 stuff

And don't use Windows if you haven't got to.

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-to-microsoft/

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

hosts file wont work, neither will any other software running on the o.s. because the o.s. is running under it at a higher level.

you need a router that supports firewall / blacklists such as openWRT.

[Topcat]

Re: more win10 stuff

Someone needs to patch a hosts file together just for Win10.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-to-microsoft/

No, we must just wise up the world to not use this intrusive coding disaster.

[goontron]

Re: more win10 stuff

Someone needs to patch a hosts file together just for Win10.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-to-microsoft/

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

well the source gives the destinations for the data,
so it probably wouldnt be hard for anybody with a win10 setup to just search the drive for plaintext of the url's - it's a start.

[Agent24]

Re: more win10 stuff

well well well.
this shit's worse than expected!!
http://localghost.org/posts/a-traffi...-of-windows-10

Anyone want to install Win 10 and do some independent verification of his claims? I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, but on the other hand, their questionable source is a good point.

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

well well well.
this shit's worse than expected!!
http://localghost.org/posts/a-traffi...-of-windows-10

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

the *only* stuff i cant run on linux is stuff using the usb & parallel port with custom drivers.
if someone writes a linux wrapper for that the way they did for wifi then that's the end of my xp laptop.

and i hope it happens soon, because i'm growing tired of running malware bytes on it every time i want to install or update something!

[SpectrHz]

Re: more win10 stuff

most people who know how to do that already switched to Linux or pirate-OSX

That is true, and I do, but I just cant completely separate from MS :/ I was about to before win 10, but win 10 runs really well on my computer, so I'm satisfied with a dual boot. In the case of people who don't know how to do this though, I feel like they are the type of people who would definitely benefit from forced updates, since they wouldn't change the update settings to begin with.