more win10 stuff

[stj]

even more win10 stuff.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/...-hardware.html

[Uranium-235]

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Wine is good - when it works.

pretty sure that is what the M$ dev team was using a lot when designing WX

[kevin!]

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I returned my computers to Windows 7 and SP1 installed, but no automatic updates enabled.
let my computer gaming Windows 10 for directx 12.
Microsoft are he passed with its policies ...
When Windows 7 no longer be supported, I'll go to a Linux distribution.
Bye

[momaka]

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So run win7, vista, or even XP.....

...and be a Member of a botnet and distribute virusses, be infected and so on.

Yeah right.

Think about it! Who is going to write exploits for an outdated OS that no one uses anymore? The whole point of malicious code is to get spread on OSes that are currently in use and popular... i.e. a larger user base, which translates to more "resources" once those systems are compromised.

But with XP dead now (all thanks to Microsoft and their scare tactics), you can bet hardly anyone bothers to write malicious code for it anymore. It just doesn't make sense.

Especially XP is just a piece of shit nowadays. You don't use that no more, EVER.

XP shit? How?

Last I checked, it's an OS still capable of doing things that you can do with the more "modern" OSes. Office work? No problem. Office 2007/2010 is still current and useful. Graphic design, photography, and music? You can still do that too with the proper softwares. Same goes for engineering and architecture.

You see, these "new" version of Windows haven't really came up with anything that is absolutely necessary or must have. Just new flashy eye candy and visual effects, that is all. But if it was just that, I wouldn't be so grungy. The problem is that there is much more going on "under" the hood now, some of which is outright 1984-like. And what's worse is that the user seems to have less and less control with each newer version of Windows. That, I also don't like, and is the main reason why I won't go to anything past 7.

Anyway:
the thing is that everything microsoft does is wrong and they get flamed for it.
Even if they just adept something other companys have for years...

Because Microsoft actually made some good products back in the day and many people still expect this quality. Windows 95, 98, and 2000 were all excellent, despite being a bit crude-looking. They just got the job done. Then came XP, which is where MS started to experiment a bit (particularly with the whole activation thing). But again, the OS was still a success and therefore people still didn't mind. The fact that it remained popular for almost 10 years and that MS had to scare people away from it to get them to move is sheer proof. Then came the Vis-trash abomination and... well, here we are today. Of course, this wasn't all MS's fault. Part of it was that people just got stupid over those iPhones and iPods, which made Apple more popular then ever. Eventually, more and more people got dumbed down by the Apple products (and eventually tablets and other "smart" phones too). In fact, so many people became dumbed down that anything could fly now. Then M$ just decided to follow the money and make products like the rest of the competition. The result is all of these newer OSes (i.e. Vista, 8, and 10... 7, I don't like too much either, but I can work with it).

Just because one or two updates could download a new OS you don't install any security patches for your machine?! SRYSLY?!

Yes, seriously!

Maybe if these updates weren't so damn obtrusive, I would have installed them.

That programms can't change the file association isn't a bad thing. It's more like a security thingy...

Right
It's called security by obscurity.

After all, if you can't do anything on your computer, then it will be very secure.

the o.s. should be a background task that exists to help you run your programs,
people talk about windows as though it's the main event!

+1111111111111111

If gas chambers could be disguised as "showers," you damn well better realize that malware can be/has been disguised as "updates."

Your humor is very crude... but still funny nonetheless. That above just gave me a good laugh today.

i know, i should have been more specific.
the original real opera.
opera-12.16-1860 was the last afaik.

I love the old Opera browsers. In fact, I am posting this right now from version 10.63. I do have 12 on most of my other PCs, though. Not only it is fast, but I also really like the way the Bookmarks work.

Ahem...Pentium D is better than Athlon 64

Only in some applications.
Pentium D is better at video encoding and decoding due to deep achitecture. For (older) games, all of the Pentium D line is blown away even by the lowest-end Athlon 64 X2 (i.e. the X2 3800+).

[stj]

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https://torrentfreak.com/torrent-tra...ncerns-150822/
Fuck yourselves M$

+1

fixed your link.

[goontron]

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https://torrentfreak.com/torrent-tra...ncerns-150822/
Fuck yourselves M$

[Agent24]

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Wine is good - when it works.

[lti]

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i'm not so sure,
if it doesnt have eye candy to blow 7 away they probably wont fall for it.
they didnt fall for it with vista or 8.x
of course if it projects holograms or gives a hand-job they will install it blindly because they love something newer and "better"

Some people will still "upgrade" anyway just because there is something newer available.

After all of this shit, I think I would rather have any other version of Windows. I'd even stop using Windows if I didn't have some Windows-only software. I don't really want to mess with Wine in Linux.

[goontron]

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so they ARE re-registering keys as 10 and not 7/8 then!

yep..... FML!
EDIT: well, The disk image was included in a recent backup. And the other win7 key worked fine. I guess i now have a Windows 7 and 10 VM.

[stj]

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so they ARE re-registering keys as 10 and not 7/8 then!

[goontron]

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more Win10 bunk! Win10s some how got pushed to my 7 VM (my guess is my cousin pressed accept when he was using it) so i restored a snapshot. Whats this? "This copy of Windows is not genuine" WTF! I guess both my spare Win7 keys are used now....... FML!

[stj]

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i know people in so-called "enterprise".
i'm surprised some of these places are still around with the stories i could share.

i'll just say this, they have computer experts who know what they are doing.
and they have thick asshole management that tells them what to do even though it's wrong.

such as throwing a whole ibm unix server-farm out and replacing it with a few compaq twin-cpu servers running win-server simply because the manager was a "windows guy".
it took them over $200,000 in software and over a year to make it work and be relativly stable.
and it still wasnt as good as the old stuff that got trashed.

only god knows how much money they lost in this time period - it as a top financial company you probably know the name of!

[diif]

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It's flat, dull and boring just like 8/8.1.
You say they didn't fall for Vista or 8.x stj. Maybe that was the fact that they were both crap and users were happy with XP and then 7. Not all Microsoft users are blind sheep that follow the latest shiny. Enterprise still makes up a vast share of Microsoft user base and thankfully common sense usually prevails. Enterprise won't start making moves on 10 for at least 6 months. There are still glaring bugs to fix.

[stj]

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i'm not so sure,
if it doesnt have eye candy to blow 7 away they probably wont fall for it.
they didnt fall for it with vista or 8.x
of course if it projects holograms or gives a hand-job they will install it blindly because they love something newer and "better"

[Topcat]

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Don't know what ya mean, OM- that's never been, ahem, a "problem."

Where did I say it was a "problem"? I didn't. It was MS's first invasion by phoning home in the name of anti-piracy. What 10 is doing makes that seems petty. My point was that people screamed and cried about activation....but eventually got used to it/accepted it.... The idiot masses will do the same with this abomination.

[stj]

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use FREEDOS

[diif]

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I can find no reference to the iManifold app "vanishing" got a source ?

And whilst I've had the opportunity to install Windows 10 these last few weeks, i am advising my customers to hold off. It wasn't finished by it's release date and still isn't.

What phone and OS do you use Kaboom ?

[kaboom]

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Microsoft won't delete files off computers, and if they are lost due to hardware failure it's no bother as there are backups right ?

Tell that to Steve Lav, whose imanifold "app" has been "vanishing" and losing connectivity with bluetooth temp/pressure sensors.
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M$ wanted remote kills since vista, and can already do so with XBONE. The drum-beating for that started way back with Billy's "BSA" and "snitching" on so-called "infringing" M$ Works users...

How am I supposed to "change something to suit" when all I have are "dummy buttons," M$'s arrogance like nothing I've seen from them, and an entire "OS" whose modus operandi is screw the "user" any way we can?"

How about we stop "making deals with the devil," as in "accepting" this shit with fanatic following and making excuses? M$ would never hurt us, in fact they love us- they care so much about us! (Not for the reasons you think.)

Maybe it's because we'd have to look back and realize how we've let 'em get over, and how we'd have to rething our entire belief system?

The stark reality is too jarring, isn't it? So just cling to your Stockholm syndrome, like 50 million Patty Hearsts defending their "captors"...

What point were you trying to make ? it's lost in the crazy ranting.

Ah, an "IT Tech." So you put ten on your customers' PCs and repeat the "un-checking," as if by rote, of those shiny new checkboxes, that do nothing? (This has been substantiated during "testing," both here and elsewhere.)

Have you no cares about the implications of any of this for your customers? If you'd "happily" and routinely install such trash, you're insulting your customers- the hell with what M$ dictates or demands. Your customers come first, as do their needs if there should be any type of custom setup.

It's an absolute boneheaded move to knowingly install something that compromises your customers' data. But it's downright asinine to think those checkboxes do anything.

As I said, I've seen M$ crapware bypass HOSTS files. I've seen it on XP too, while trying IE8 on a test mule. Don't like IE-searchbar spyware and think you can "uncheck" it? Think again! "Checkboxes" stop nothing! Ok, sure look for the domains in TEMPOR~1 files and add 'em to HOSTS, right?

Wrong.

Reality is clashing with the M$ fanatics' religion.

[diif]

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What point were you trying to make ? it's lost in the crazy ranting.
My point was if you have an issue with something change it to suit.
And i think you're wrong, Microsoft won't delete files off computers, and if they are lost due to hardware failure it's no bother as there are backups right ?

[goontron]

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That's closer to snooping on someone's open WIFI and then stealing logons/CC info.

Is it really that hard to say "enough is enough?"

I guess not, since it's been a self-fulfilling fantasy since "IE is required."



You didn't even "get" the point I was trying to make...

This is what we have to look forward to, since everything is "bound and determined" to go "mo-beel," as the ten-fanatics are dead set:



On the PC side, it's not just gonna be "apps." How about personal/industrial documents, music/videos (personal and otherwise), emails, etc. They'll be there one week, then they'll vanish. Not before they're "burglarized," shared, and uploaded, of course...

#oops, your doctor who upgraded just broke doctor-patient confidentiality. You know, as if that meant anything....