Gone but not forgotten

[kc8adu]

Re: Gone but not forgotten

cut pin 4 on cic.did it to every one i had open.

[Pentium4]

Re: Gone but not forgotten

Yes, Jetway is indeed still alive and well. They make custom ITX ISFs for a reasonable price. All polymer caps, good fan, lots of 40mm fan slots, external PSU. Pretty well built honestly. I always liked the look of their older boards. And you could get them free because of all the Sacons they used

[momaka]

Re: Gone but not forgotten

They must have really underspec'd it in order for a low-end C2D to heat the VRM up. I'm thinking three FETs per phase, two phase, two chokes, very small copper pads, all free standing FETs...

Wasn't so much underspecced as just a bad design. The CPU VRM is 3-phase with 3 FETS per phase (which is pretty much the standard for most non-gaming boards). The only thing that wasn't specced right was the copper pads for the FETs - they were quite small. But I'm thinking some of the passives for the PWM controller were just right at the limit, because the board must have worked okay at one point.

In a way, I don't blame the board for only accepting "good" brands.

I agree. But sometimes, I just want the board to work - even if it has to be with crappy parts (which I usually use as a test PC). For that matter, ECS is wonderful. They always seem to accept any kind of RAM you put in them. I have two 1 GB Buffalo -branded PC3200 DDR sticks that won't work in any board except my ECS P4VXASD2+. That said, they only run at DDR 100 and 133 MHz, but crash at 166 and 200 MHz. I can also run these sticks in my Jetway N2PAP LITE motherboard, but first I have to start the PC with some good RAM and manually set the RAM speed to 100 or 133 MHz. Then save CMOS, shut down, and finally install those crappy Buffalo sticks.

Now if only it were the same way for crappy PSUs.

That'd be cool. But probably easy to get around.