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  • keeney123
    Lauren
    • Sep 2014
    • 2536
    • United States
    #21
    Re: Another HDD issue

    It sounds to me that having a HD that decreases in speed is caused by a software problem. The platter is just a magnetic hard disk. Most problems occur with the read head. Have you done a disk surface test? This test is suppose to remember the bad sectors and not write to them but can read from them if there is readable data. This is a site that has such a test for free. http://www.partition-tool.com/easeus...rface-test.htm

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      • RJARRRPCGP
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2004
        • 6304
        • USA
        #22
        Re: Another HDD issue

        Originally posted by keeney123
        It sounds to me that having a HD that decreases in speed is caused by a software problem. The platter is just a magnetic hard disk. Most problems occur with the read head. Have you done a disk surface test? This test is suppose to remember the bad sectors and not write to them but can read from them if there is readable data. This is a site that has such a test for free. http://www.partition-tool.com/easeus...rface-test.htm
        More likely an ATA cable, ATA controller issue or a bad board on the HDD, if it consistently stays capped at a real low rate.
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          • keeney123
            Lauren
            • Sep 2014
            • 2536
            • United States
            #23
            Re: Another HDD issue

            Question, could the temperature sensor detect a rise in temperature and then slow down the computer?

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              • RJARRRPCGP
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jul 2004
                • 6304
                • USA
                #24
                Re: Another HDD issue

                Originally posted by keeney123
                Question, could the temperature sensor detect a rise in temperature and then slow down the computer?
                Yes, if talking about the CPU temp sensor.
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                  • keeney123
                    Lauren
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2536
                    • United States
                    #25
                    Re: Another HDD issue

                    Yes, that is what I am talking about. It could be the sensor is bad or the fan is not working or the fan is set to passive instead of active.

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                      • momaka
                        master hoarder
                        • May 2008
                        • 12175
                        • Bulgaria
                        #26
                        Re: Another HDD issue

                        I don't think you can set the CPU fan to passive (at least on many motherboards you can't). However, you could still have an overheating CPU if the fan is clogged, not spinning, or something like that. Check temperatures with SpeedFan, and check CPU speed with CPU-Z. Depending on how old your computer is though, you may see the CPU throttle-down when idle to save power. All recent CPUs (as of the last 8-10 years or so) have this feature. So if you see your CPU throttle down, don't panic. Open a browser and watch a random video on YouTube or do something CPU-intensive. The CPU speed should ramp up to maximum speed (unless you have Windows Vista or later and a very aggressive power-saving settings - in fact, check this before anything else).
                        Last edited by momaka; 11-07-2014, 09:54 PM.

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                          • blasterboomer
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 135
                            • United Kingdom
                            #27
                            Re: Another HDD issue

                            Sorry for late replies but this drive is slow in 2 different PC's using different sata cables... The vista virtual machine still works though and i installed all updates and other stuff to see if it would die and it hasnt, it just reallocated a few more sectors... it was running hot before i realised it was slow (around 56C) because the fan died that was cooling my drives and this one had intensive use

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                              • keeney123
                                Lauren
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2536
                                • United States
                                #28
                                Re: Another HDD issue

                                You might want to reformate the drive and load the operating system back on it or if you have a good drive with the operating system on it you could clone the good drive to your slow drive and replace the good drive with the slow drive and see if it is still running slow?

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                                  • larrymoencurly
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2004
                                    • 960
                                    • USA
                                    #29
                                    Re: Another HDD issue

                                    Originally posted by blasterboomer
                                    Is there any program that can read a certain area of the hdd endlessley to see if any bad blocks come back in that area
                                    The MHDD diagnostic that RJARRRPCGP mentioned will let you specify the LBAs of the first and last sectors you want tested. I don't know if a different diagnostic, HDAT2, allows that.

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                                      • blasterboomer
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Dec 2013
                                        • 135
                                        • United Kingdom
                                        #30
                                        Re: Another HDD issue

                                        im still running a windows 7 vm on it... and the vm goes over some of the bad sectors but it doesnt seem to care and works fine... even chkdsk within the vm finds nothing hmmm its slow as hell though

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                                          • keeney123
                                            Lauren
                                            • Sep 2014
                                            • 2536
                                            • United States
                                            #31
                                            Re: Another HDD issue

                                            Have you tried to defragment the disk?

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                                              • blasterboomer
                                                Senior Member
                                                • Dec 2013
                                                • 135
                                                • United Kingdom
                                                #32
                                                Re: Another HDD issue

                                                il do that now

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                                                  • blasterboomer
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Dec 2013
                                                    • 135
                                                    • United Kingdom
                                                    #33
                                                    Re: Another HDD issue



                                                    EDIT: defrag finished.. slowly..


                                                    Gotta love that 6MB/s write speed

                                                    Last edited by blasterboomer; 11-28-2014, 11:09 AM.

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                                                      • keeney123
                                                        Lauren
                                                        • Sep 2014
                                                        • 2536
                                                        • United States
                                                        #34
                                                        Re: Another HDD issue

                                                        So did the defrag help or not?

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                                                          • blasterboomer
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • Dec 2013
                                                            • 135
                                                            • United Kingdom
                                                            #35
                                                            Re: Another HDD issue

                                                            it made it reallocate more but its still slow, it took 3 days to do those updates... im just gonna keep running it till it dies

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                                                              • keeney123
                                                                Lauren
                                                                • Sep 2014
                                                                • 2536
                                                                • United States
                                                                #36
                                                                Re: Another HDD issue

                                                                I wonder if you would run this diagnostic of my benefit? http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...&sid=3&lang=en

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                                                                  • blasterboomer
                                                                    Senior Member
                                                                    • Dec 2013
                                                                    • 135
                                                                    • United Kingdom
                                                                    #37
                                                                    Re: Another HDD issue

                                                                    il run it and report back... so far this hdd is still running but now it doesnt show any bad sectors pending reallocation but when i do an error scan it shows new bad sectors, but never reallocates anymore or marks them as pending.

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                                                                      • cheapie
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                                                                        • Jul 2010
                                                                        • 849
                                                                        • USA
                                                                        #38
                                                                        Re: Another HDD issue

                                                                        Originally posted by blasterboomer
                                                                        il run it and report back... so far this hdd is still running but now it doesnt show any bad sectors pending reallocation but when i do an error scan it shows new bad sectors, but never reallocates anymore or marks them as pending.
                                                                        How many are reallocated? It might be out of spares.

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                                                                          • blasterboomer
                                                                            Senior Member
                                                                            • Dec 2013
                                                                            • 135
                                                                            • United Kingdom
                                                                            #39
                                                                            Re: Another HDD issue

                                                                            It failed the quick test and currently is running the extended test. some screenshots from the quick test.
                                                                            Attached Files

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                                                                              • blasterboomer
                                                                                Senior Member
                                                                                • Dec 2013
                                                                                • 135
                                                                                • United Kingdom
                                                                                #40
                                                                                Re: Another HDD issue

                                                                                This is the SMART info for the hdd. looks like it still has a few spares... i wonder if its running low so it gets more strict or something and only reallocates very bad ones
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