Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

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  • binsonk
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 182
    • United States

    #21
    Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

    Yes, I could mount and browse the content, before I nuked the partitions.

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    • binsonk
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
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      #22
      Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

      Originally posted by stj
      incidentally, AV drives arent very good for data use.
      they are optimised for streaming rather than long life / low error rate.
      Is that a permanent condition, or something that can be modified in firmware? In other words, can a DVR hard drive be re-purposed for use in a PC?
      Last edited by binsonk; 08-30-2014, 06:54 AM.

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 31014
        • Albion

        #23
        Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

        you can use it in a pc, it just wont last as long as a regular drive.

        a data drive scatters data all over the drive to even the wear between the heads and platters.
        an AV drive writes sequentialy like a cd or a record to avoid glitches during playback etc.

        this causes the low numbered tracks to take more wear than the others.

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        • binsonk
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 182
          • United States

          #24
          Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

          Happy to report these Hitachi drives turned out to be standard hard drives. I used another utility (Pdisk) to create a new DOS partition table, and thereafter BIOS recognized the drives.

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          • binsonk
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
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            #25
            Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

            Premature celebration. I installed everything without shutting down. I used GParted to recreate DOS partition table. Set up partitions, installed Linux. Rebooted to BIOS to see that both hdd's were detected under drives, confirmed. Continued boot to desktop. Everything was working good. I rebooted again, with similar positive results. Then I turned OFF the computer, without removing mains power. When I booted the computer again from OFF (stopped), the error returned, and drives were not detected. So perhaps, when the hdd spins up from stopped, the DOS partition table is re-written or corrupted?
            Last edited by binsonk; 09-01-2014, 09:44 AM.

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            • binsonk
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 182
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              #26
              Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

              What can be deduced from the fact that the drives were made bootable by creating a new DOS partition table?

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              • goontron
                5000!
                • Dec 2011
                • 4108
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                #27
                Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

                IDK, even with all i know of linux, unix, the IBM PC, and UEFI/BIOS all i can think of is firmware issues in the BIOS. is this an OEM (eg powerspec) or MFG (eg intel) BIOS?
                Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                Follow the white rabbit.

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                • binsonk
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
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                  • United States

                  #28
                  Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

                  I guess you mean, the Hitachi hard drive's firmware. The computer is a Dell, and the BIOS version is A04, probably Intel. Summarizing, after I used GParted to create a new DOS partition table,
                  1. BIOS stopped giving errors and began booting
                  2. hdd's were accurately detected and reported by BIOS
                  3. a subsequently installed OS booted without difficulty, normally

                  After the computer is shut down, and the hdd allowed to come to a stop, the next boot fails, producing the original "error auto-sensing secondary hard disk drive0." And of course, BIOS no longer detects or reports the drives.
                  Last edited by binsonk; 09-01-2014, 07:42 PM.

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                  • SteveNielsen
                    Retired Tech
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 2327
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Dell Dimension does not see SATA hdd(s)

                    SATA connections suck. The weakest, mealy-mouthed pieces of crap I've ever seen on a hard drive. Those things practically fall off if you look at them wrong.

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